Mig 23ML in 11.7 br

Ok, I just was making a suggestion because I think that’s much better than an r73

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On BR of F-20, and Bison.
Great idea btw.
Make top premiums a old planes, but with advanced soft/hardware.

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It is much better I agree, but historically it didn’t carry it. The MiG-23ML also likely never carried the R-24, but since exported variants did this received them.

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And similar to existing previous premium planes makes them easier for premium players to adapt too. Not a bad idea really (but then again, there’s that possibility of putting ARH in a premium players hands…)

No, no, no.
Only a top-grade Fox-1/2 for wallet warriors.

Want a Fox-3?
Grind to the top of TT.

That’s what everyone thought about SARH missiles and even IR missiles, and then IRCCM IR missiles, but we are
As dumb as it is, it’s honestly just a matter of time…

yeah i dont want to see fox3 on premium planes, even those who grinded their way to top tier TK me enough with amraams.

also i think someone from gaijin said in a post that premiums wont be wielded with the best armaments in the game, which i think is more than wise.

This is becoming far to common for the USSR tech tree, to be handheld with special loadouts… Mig-29 with R27-ERs, The R24s, The Yak-141 with any missiles… Must be nice to be completely spoon fed armament you couldn’t carry.

The good stuff can’t come fast enough. The next generation of Aim-120s aren’t fooled by low flying, it might force more users to climb and air battle finally. We are already seeing this with the current meta. Half the teams are now climbing and battling it out, and its kind of nice.

It’s really weird actually. The Soviets upgraded a bunch of MLs to MLA standard but never changed the name. Hence the MiG-23ML we have in game with R-24s

No SARH/ARH missile past the first few are affected by Multipathing. For example Skyflash’s Minimum altitude is from its prox fuse triggering from the ground that it is by multipathing. Multipathing in war thunder is there for balance and balance alone. Likelyhood is that Aim-120Cs will have the same 60m MP that every other missile has unless Gaijin reduces it further

The best thing this game could get, is to get rid of the silly multipathing for missiles that didn’t need to worry about it. Funny thing is the flight manual for the SU-27 and Mig-29SMT both say the R27-ERs only work about 3000ft, and when pointed up. Pointed down at the earth below 3000ft they go blind. So not all of them are immune to it.

We are seeing more and more air battles at top tier, the best thing that can happen is remove multi-path and get people fighting in the air again.

Aim-7C does say it has a minimum altitude of around 5 meters.

BVR is quite fun now yeah :D

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wait till this bloke plays the F-4J UK. Where are my AIM-260s at?

it is balanced. you got radar missile and IRST, plus you fought 11.0 a lot which are bunch of fucking idiot with no radar missile and dogshit RWR. shut your mouth or quit the game you skill issue.

I know the MLD was rated to use R-73s but the ML shouldnt even have R24s

I fully agree, mig23 needs a buff to be able to even have a chance against all modern aircrafts. the radar is horrendous, no high range missles, r24t are flare hungry just like r60s r 24t only work if u ever get a radar lock. means you are already dead before even getting rwr ALWAYS

then ML can get 4x R73

No it can’t, only the MiG-23MLD used them in late Russian service afaik. And even then, it won’t get them as gaijin doesn’t want to raise its BR.

Uhm what…? Radar slaving doesn’t effect flare resistance mate, and the R-24T has some of the best flare resistance rangebands of any non-IRCCM missile ingame, second only to the RedTop (yes the redtop) and the R-27T.

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Sure, will be 12.3/12.7 though