really, the R-24r are good, but I felt a slight change in this last update, it became less efficient, but changing the br to 11.7 and making everything worse, radar, missiles, doesn’t make sense!
I have no idea specifically about the R-24R, but most SARH and ARH missiles got a slight buff with the reduction in Multi-pathing (though most can still easily exploit it)
MTI was made historically accurate and the Mig-23s joined everyone else in receiving the automatic mode switching that everyone else received about 6 months ago. I personally quite like it, but I know others dont.
The Flight model was also corrected and made more historically accurate. it was over-performing significantly. Though I have heard the Mig-23ML is still rather OP in a turn fight, but now you have to learn to manually change the wing sweep instead of relying on the auto-mode.
The Mig-23ML is still one of the strongest top tier premiums in the game. You just need to play more defensively than before.
You have also recieved quite a major ahistorical buff (at least in sim, but I think also in RB) where before the RWR on the Mig-23ML couldnt detect quite a few types of radar lock (like PD) , it now can. This gives you far more warning and situational than you did originally.
War Thunder tries (though quite often fails) to be historically accurate. The Mig-23s recieve far more TLC than most other aircraft do (still waiting on basic things like the Sea Harrier FRS1s radar gunsight to be added) But the Mig-23ML could probably quite easily be 12.0, so enjoy the fact its 11.7 and if you use it in Sim, its 11.3, even though its equivalent the Mig-23MLA is 11.7. Nice little bit of soviet bias for you there
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It’s not that good anymore, this change in the radar is terrible, it doesn’t lock onto anyone, compared to the Pathom 4s, it even hits you if you fly underground
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Automatic radar switching is one of the worst things they’ve added its caused my locks to disappear constantly, switch radar modes randomly and its not even historically accurate for the most part since every single aircraft with Automatic radar has a manual option for the pilot or RIO that should be in game
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It should be a toggle option in the settings. But I’ve never actually had any issues with it.
Though I’m actually pissed that the Tornado F3 lost its Auto-ACM mode (which was actually historically accurate) because that mode was awesome.
the mig 23ml radar was horrible
R73 is just fancy R-60M
I think its fine where it is really, its just that its gets uptiered all the time to games with f14 that deny early game climbing. otherwise its pretty strong.
anyone else noticed that experting the mig23ml crew costs alot more than any other vehicle? its 1,770,000 SL meanwhile everything else is 1-1,2mil SL at most.
I think that is a premium thing… or something. Its not the only one that is super expensive, like I think the Chally 2 OES is that kind of amount
Mate I agree the MiG-23s are overtiered after the medium FM nerf and huge radar nerf but even so R-73s would be 12.0, and weren’t carried on the ML.
Yeah, because IR missiles are not the only deciding factor for BR.
MiG-23ML couldn’t carry R-73
I mean the FM is still cracked, no plane can really compete with its FM until like 12.3. The radar nerf is pretty bad but its still usable since the R-24R is CW. Also the R-24T is unaffected and still pretty good.
thr FM got nerfed by 30%
And yet its still good, it can beat most planes in its BR range.
ok and?
Honestly Idk they nerfed the 24r into the ground and kept on going, it’s unusable for me. But r73s are a little to much give it like the 27r maybe just maybe the 27er. This may sound stupid but it’s a lot better than giving it 73s
Why not give it AIM-174 and Phyton 5? This will surelly balance things in 11.7
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It never used the R-27. The only MiG-23 that ever did was the MiG-23-98 (and even then I doubt it had the ER).
Even though it received a FM nerf and a second radar nerf, the missile itself was never once nerfed like you said. The plane currently sits at a BR lower than what other planes who shared a BR with it did, as it went from 11.3-11.7 despite many other comparable jets going up to 12.0.
I say Gaijin just fixes the radar to use MTI whenever the pilot wants and calls it a day, it should be plenty playable after that even at 12.0 with that change.
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Ok, I just was making a suggestion because I think that’s much better than an r73
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