How about the R-23T?
Eh I found it uselss but give it a try and see how you feel!
basically a faster and less maunverable R-60m and have farther range
Yeah use the IR tracking and it works alright, easily flared tho
I think I will perferd the R-60m just can’t get a good kill with the R-24 it 90% of the time it missed from 5km and even if it manage to get the enemy it will have a “hit”
R23R/T are not great missiles, they are definitely 11.0 radar missiles.
They’re extremely situational, R23R like I said is good for catching folks trying to run, or who are slower.
Mig23M is the fastest 11.0 in game I believe, providing u dont wing rip
However; i used the R60Ms as my main attack 4 of them is a nice combo with the air frame, then 2 R23R’s for when needed.
The thing is with R23s you will learn to use them and the plane more over time, its a step into a new BR bracket and will require time and patience to learn, was like when I got the FGR2 back years ago, had to learn how to actually use it as well as how it all works.
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I want you to think… will the Su-17m4 be better then the Mig-23M in a gun fight?
Yes i dont neee to think about thwt.
no you have to think, I flown a Su-17M4 and trap the Mig-23M inside a energy trap and it got easily shotdown
Some people dont play the mig23 correctly at sll though.
If you can energy trap a mig 23 in a su17 then there’s not much else i can tell you!
how do i evade those radar or IRCCM missles with lack of countermeasure? I tired flying low however didn’t go well…
IRCCM ? For the most part you shouldn’t be coming across them bar the magic 2 as far as I know.
For them, you have to turn off your afterburner. Pop a flar, or two and importantly change direction.
Wont always work but you will be alright for the most part.
As for radar missiles theres a few options, you can try notch, but providing its an AIm7 (american) missile, you can corkscrew through it.
However, usually you are better avoiding being fired on in the first place, either using multipath.
(turn on radar altitude in the settings)
Its in options > main > air battle settings.
this will show you how close you actually are to the ground so you can multipath properly
for IRCCM i just spam all my flares and for radar there is 0 hope unfortunate i tired different aircraft such as the SU-17M4 It have over 250 countermeasure i put around 120 chaff and spam it…and it failed.
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- sarh missiles
For radar missiles, i strongly suggest watching a guide on them.
Hell even take notes if it helps, they arent normal missiles at all, you have to defeat the radar of the plane launching them…
Chaff for example only works if you notch it, which essentially means fly perpendicular to the plane that launched the missile.
However, some radars are what is called, pulse doppler and they are harder to defeat… they filter out chaff and ground clutter thus require you to sometimes defeat a missile kinetically (through dodging it which isnt easy)
- IRCCM
For irccm missiles they are difficult especially when you are new to the bracket.
Thwy essentially filter out flares when you pop them, however what you just do, is learn the platforms that carry them, e.g su25t with R73, or the mirage f1c with magic 2
These missiles use a similar filter, in which, you must and i mean ,must.
Cut the afterburners, pop a flare or two, and also change direction.
And watch it, and flare when needed .
Edit also some of this is stuff you learn through just playing
@MotorolaCRO is there anything here you would add? I dont want this poor lad to have to seek high n low for answers that arent rude.
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That’s more than fine for a starting point. He also has YT videos to learn more.
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Thought so, but always better to have more outlooks.
He needs to learn energy management as well.
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Ok so the radar missle part it worked for the older one like from the Mig-21 however for the F-4s it still very hard and I got teamkilled because i bombed base, are you now allowed to steal someone else base? I arrived their first.
Got some advice for you buddy.
If you want to get better at dealing with enemy planes and players, stop base bombing in what is a designated fighter.
You would do well to remember there are 4 bases taht only respawn every 5 minutes, so people really want them, and as you see, they will team kill for them, As well as this it used to be good practice when someone pinged a base on the map, that you left it for them to take.
The F4S is can carry up to 6 x AIM7F, which can cause issues, what you need to do is either multipath them (stay 60meters or lower in altitude) or actively cork screw through them, which is a bit harder to do.
You will struggle to deal with any missiles in the mig23 if you
- A have a bomb load
- B have too much fuel
- C are going far too fast with the wings back and compress meaning your capabilities are hindered massively.
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What do you meant by Cork screw through them?
Literally that