f5e ain’t 11 br needs more decompression
Yes it is lmao.
This is the reason %90 of US high tier jet aircraft are undertiered. They are played by literally clueless people. The F-5E and F-5C are examples of this
An entire team of F-4Es F-5Es and F-5Cs with some A10s losing to a team of almost nothing but SU-25s.
in AB and SB my bad i only really play RB where it is 10.7
However, as long as the current Kfir Canard works well enough as a counterpart of the F-5E so, it should also work well as a counterpart of the Kfir C.2 with Python-3 if they gets AIM-9Ls and move up to 11.0BR again.
I’m pretty sure it never recieved 9L’s in USAF
IIRC, F-5E in the game is including US Navy service as well so, still possible to get AIM-9Ls.
no
MiG-21SMT is completely fair at 10.3, it has countermesures, decent engine, bad missiles and a tricky FM that’s hard to be dominated in the hands of a stupid player.
if u aren’t an USA main u don’t have nothing to worry about it.
Literally all vehicles driven by idiots end up dying because they don’t know how to use them. You shouldn’t take this level as standard… Otherwise, imagine how many Italian aircraft should have a lower BR but are high because most Italian players are the best Warthunder players.
erm, no.
italian planes are some of the best, with good agility, cannons and thrust.
also they have a jet at 7.0 with 12.0 cannons (30mm DEFA 553 found on the Mirage F1) and many of their planes are good and not all italian players are veterans from the alpha/beta of the game
i take it as a standard because if it wasn’t the standard, A-10A would be 6.7, F/A-18C would be 10.0, Mirage F1C-200 would be 13.0, F-2A ADTW would be 12.3, etc etc.
u have a massive skill issue if u can’t beat a MiG-21SMT, which is maybe the worst MiG-21 (excluding the 9.3 one) in the game.
i own the MiG-21SMT and sometimes i do 0 kills and die miserably cuz i can’t see any missile.
other times i carry all my dumb team and do 4/5 kills since the Gsh-23 is OP.
Lol, No, it hasn’t been like that for a long time… What game are you playing?
- Here’s a clear example: CL-14 mk.4 legit copy of the F-86A-5 and somehow it’s 8.3 over 8.0??? Do I need to say more…
- The same goes for the C. 202EC, which is at BR 4.0, while the P-51, with much more agility, speed and firepower thanks to its four 20mm cannons, is at BR 3.7.
- Ariete, as good as it is as a turning aircraft, has no flare, no missiles and is subsonic. At its current BR, it is constantly pitted against aircraft at higher BRs, where it has to face supersonic aircraft armed with missiles. Facing an A10 with an AIM-9L or a MiG-21 with an R60, even your mobility is useless. Until doesn’t increase the BR of higher-level aircraft, so this aircraft remains useless.
- RE.2005 series 0 at 6.0 for no reason facing super props they cant really beat
- Ecc…
SMT can be placed at 10.7 without too much problem. Engine power makes all the difference and it will ease up the pressure on 9.3 br. 21MF however should remain at 10.3 because of the worse engine.
I never had downtiers of 9.3 just like never got uptiers of 10.3 in 9.3/10.3 aircrafts.
Btw are u serious? U want a rear-aspect IR missile carrier to face R-24R and planes with better thrust and maneuverability? It has 4 R-60 which can be dodged by literally just barrel rolling till they lose all their energy.
It’s enough with the F-4E throwing piles of metal at Mach 4 (and btw, in the SMT u can’t lock targets above ~5km).
Ariete is maybe one of the best italian aircraft ingame.
It has good maneuverability, 2 engines + light FM gives it very good acceleration and to end it: 2 HSS 30mm cannons which are some of the best (and fastest) cannons ingame.
Ariete can pulverize a MiG-15bis with ease, so putting it at 8.3 wouldn’t be a good idea (poor 7.3 Me 262), it’s subsonic so obviously it can’t go 10.3, so the remaining BR is 9.3. MAYBE it could go 9.0 with some magic so it doesn’t need to face “supersonic aircraft”.
Also talking about A-10A, just don’t fight them XDDDDD
And if u didn’t know, there’s something called “rockets” that can act like flares since they use boosters which are hot (heat that attracts IR missiles, even the mighty AIM-9L).
There are other aircrafts in similar situations, SMT is not the unique case. Besides, it was at 10.7 before, i played it and it was ok. Engine power really helps you to stay in the game.
ik, it has better acceleration than a F-4E which is at 11.3 (i played Kurnass and the SMT was able to catch me), but with 23MLD at 11.7, i don’t think it’s fair for SMT players to fight against planes which are basically better at everything (especially that R-60 are BS, imagine not being able to lock targets in head-ons like the 21bis/23M at 11.0).
if 21SMT gets R-13M1 (which is basically a sovietized AIM-9J(?)), i wouldn’t have any problem with it going up to 10.7.
I never said that the Ariete wasn’t good, and I know very well that it has good mobility. Read before you comment. I also said that it’s good at turning. What I said was that, at its current BR, it’s always put in higher-level matches, and as I wrote before, when faced with an A10 with an AIM-9L or a MiG-21 with an R60, even your mobility is useless.