they both have bad radar and tornado ıds wtd61 has src sea mode while it doesnt even have any guided bombs and missiles, even it had it doesnt have anti ship bombs and missiles. they both suffer from br and lack of usefull missiles and secondaries. there should be new cas weapons for these and specialy for mig21 lazurm diffrent missiles, air to air missiles would be great.
You got to be kidding me
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such as?
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All Tornado IDSs recieved the naval search radar, even those without ASMs. More of them may recieve AS-34s in the future. Just toggle it off if you dont want to see it. Debatably, using CCIP with unguided bombs is more effective than ASMs at the moment
Whilst the 11.3 BR can certainly be debated for (finally) all 6 of the 11.3 Tornado IDS. This largely isnt the fault of the aircraft themselves. Good RWR, half-decent CM count (infinite chaff, but quite limited flare count), a passable FM and a fairly decent bomb load, they should be fine.
The issue is one of both compression and the poor state of all ground attackers in ARB and even debatably ASB these days too. The former… Gaijin will be unlikely to ever fix, but the latter… Im hoping that if/when ARM are added, they will update at least some of the PvE side of the air modes using assets created in the recent Deep Strike and Nuclear thunder events.
There shouldnt really be any meaningful expectation for the Tornado IDS aircraft to be good in A2A (though Ive gotten some truly hilarious kills in the Tornado GR4). It was aircraft designed to fly low and fast in all weather and drop bombs onto a target.
Though Aim-9Ls are in need of a little TLC imo
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