MiG-21 Bison unfair

I just… can’t understand the complaint about 120pops while comparing stocks of both Su-27 and F-15… :(

Isn’t it true that F-15 is carrying one of the biggest amounts of countermeasures if we exclude external countermeasure pods? :|

I admit both Tonka and SHAR were the worst planes in the nearby radius of BR, though.

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F3 Late gets BOL and so does Shar both also get AMRAAM

I stand corrected then, turns out the su33 is better than a 10.3 plane, still doesn’t take out the fact that the su33 is one of the worst performing aircrafts in a dogfight compared to the stuff it faces due to it being the 2nd or 3rd worst flanker variant as far as dogfight performance goes.

Not a complaint, just a correction, yes Su-33 does have less effective CM but it isn’t as big a difference as it seems immediately

I would’ve agreed if I could unlock BOL in a single modification in tier 1 just like EFT or Mirage 2K does… :(

Sorry, I apologise. I thought it was a complaint…
Maybe I was quite a bit edgy…


Well, by the way, lads.
This topic is originally a complaint about MiG-21Bison and R-73, so current discussion about F-15 vs Su-27 might be a derailment of the original topic.
So maybe it will be great if we move somewhere else…?

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No SU-25 gets 4 R-60Ms, and those that get 4 missiles are 11.3 in air, nice try though

we always i make a post, u almost ALWAYS need to be here?
also i was talking about Kfir C.7, not canard, cuz its a COMPLETELY different Kfir that i actually respect at its BR

we started with MiG-21 Bison being the main theme of conversation, and now we’re talking about Su-27s, F-15s and countermesures xd

You said just Kfir
And there are four Kfir in this game
Seems terrible miscommunication.

Well, every kfir inside IDF(Canard, C2, C7) shares the same 36CM, so things became even more haywire.

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Okay fine, you still get multiple all aspect missiles facing people with no flares. That’s completely fair and balanced

Gaijin has made bol even worse than small countermeasures so i wouldnt consider this to be alot. Sure its okay for pre flaring but as soon as somethings on your ass your not going to be spending anything less than 20 on a single missile lol.

R-60Ms go after rockets, and they are not hard to dodge if you see them coming. Most of the time it is a skill issue if you get hit

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i know the may have just slapped the pylons on it for the museum but it’s still interesting to see
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11.3 has magic 2’s

What is man smoking?

If it was r27er u would be right but thos are r27r with a very poor range
Tbh the 530f on the mf1 worked better for me then r27r on the mig 29
Also mig 21 fm isnt good at 12.3

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Yes, 9.3 planes are well known for their ability to move. I forget that the F-104 and F-100 are super agile

M2K-5F 16 flares stock-

Ah yes, a 9.3 plane that is much faster, higher flying, and can carry rockets to use as flares. Such a bad match-up, it almost seems like a skill issue.