MiG-15 & F-86A at 8.0 is unacceptable

Same BR as:

Me-163
IL-28
Vampire FB.5
Sea Hawk FGA.6
Meteor F MK.4/G and MK.8
Mystere IIA

LOWER than:
Me-163 B-0
Swift F.1/F.7(lmao)
Venom FB.4
Javelin F.AW Mk.9
Ki-200
Mystere IIC
Vautour IIN

CAN FACE:
Me-262 A-1a/C-1a/C-2b
Ho-229
262 Jabo
Ar234 C-3
…many more.

MiG-15 and F-86A simply outperform the majority of what they face and should never see 8.0 BR. Blame compression but it will never be fixed so BR adjustments are all we can ask for.

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its wild that the mig 15 and sabre can see the ww2 generation jets. how is it fair that its seeing the vampire, me262 and meteor lmao

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yeah german air always gets to have little fun

me163 with like no fuel on EC maps is crazy with runway spawn should just give it a interceptor spawn since it is one

7.0-10.0 needs the next round of decompression

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could easily stretch 7.0-10.0 to be 7.0-14.3 lmao

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top br could easily Be 16.0

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There is no math that can get that one to work.

OP has points tho.

Quick and dirty decompression. At least 2 extra full BRs would be needed, maybe a little more. If you decompress a little more than just that range to “feather” the decompression (so whilst the aim was just 7.0-10.0, but you actually included 6.3-10.7 vehicles) I think 9.7-10.3 vehicles could end up with a new BR of more like 13.0 ish

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could just change the max Uptier rate which is 1.0 and instead of M26 at 6.7 fighting a 7.7 it be facing 7.3 with a .7 uptier even if you add new vehicles this lessens compression actively without decompression

Almost forgot: same BR at Tu-4 as well.

Criminal, although admittedly the Tu-4 was killed and left floating face-down in a river for years on end.

Yeah. that would be the other option.

+/- 0.7 would be a decent alternative

ARB once you reach jet tier is just totally fucked. Prop era is quite well balanced ironically enough, but once you reach that 7.0+ range everything crumbles down into rubble. 262’s facing MiG-15’s and Sabres is appalling, and overall balance is just atrocious. Gaijin truly thinks Vampires/Venoms along with the two Swifts are deserving of equal/better than the MiG-15. There does come a point where you wonder if reality-altering drugs were in play during these decisions.

Its pure compression combined with legacy BRs and probably the most popular nations having the influx of bad players (really obvious with the US, they have some of the best vehicles at every BR but cosnsitantly some of the lowest stats)

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There’s a weird place between 10.3 and 12.0 (with a couple exceptions) where the decompression isn’t as bad, but then it gets much worse if you go outside of that BR range.

Ideally the Mig-15s/Sabre A-5s would start at 8.7 to give more room to earlier jets, and then they would extend all the way up until 10.0, where the CL.13B Mk.6 and Shengyang F-5 will sit as some of the top subsonics. From there, stuff like the F-100 and Mig-19 will be 11.0 higher to give subsonics some more separation between them and supersonics. Other planes like the Q-5 early, F-11, Su-7, and Yak-28/38, and the Ariete will fill the BRs between 10.0 and 11.0. Assuming the F-100/Mig-19/Mig-21Fs/F-104As are all 11.0, you would then have stuff like the Mig-21S at 11.3, and other planes like the Jaguars, T-2, or maybe the Av-8s at 11.7.

This could decompress 8.0-9.7 by 2 entire BRs, and it would allow for things to not be OP in downtiers, or useless in uptiers.

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Yeah, it’s almost as bad as 1980s SPAA seeing 1940s CAS.

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Yea honestly.

Its the same planes getting screwed over in both instances. like how is my meteor meant to take on a sabre and a gepard its ridiculous

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SPAA at 8.0+ is honestly OP as fuck and I will never be convinced otherwise.

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Its insane that the yenisei is the same BR as a mk8 meteor, and a whole Br higher than a venom

Or the gepard not even seeing several 60s jets unless its significantly uptiered

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7.0 262 gets eaten by 8.0 mig 15 8.0 mig 15 gets eating by 9.0 F86 9.3s eat everything below in there range its sad its by design to force you to pay for premiums

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