that missile will have to travel rougly 55km and it will take 75 seconds to reach its target, assuming the target will continue flying straight without defending whatsoever and will keep its alt of 10 000m.
That scenario will simply not happen against player paying attention.
same issue as the first launch. and no one will launch additional amraam at you if you are already in a notch.
that one might have enough energy to land a hit, assuming you wont notch it all the same as C5s can be notched as easily as 120A/B.
if you get lower where the air is thicker, AMRAAMs range will rarely come into play.
and im still waiting for you to explain how the unique MICA seeker isnt an advantage.
but you are portraying it like that scene from “Behind enemy lines” where Clive Owen is trying to dodge single Strela for 5 minutes straight. Like you portray it like it takes the best of the best Rafale pilots to defend against C5 at 80km and Rafale will lost 99% of its speed if it as much as turns by 1°.
Nah, he doesnt understand, that most of fights in ARB goes in 20km range, where mica has most advantage because of this games mechanics.
First 2 mins of fight is pure notching and looking how people waste 70% of missiles, you making one shot there and another there , just to make opponent on defense if he’s flying straight.
And every 120 / r77-1 should get kills before going on that 30km range, return to airfield and try again.
And also, sounds like , only rafale has to notch incoming missiles, and everyone is aiming just rafales.
And excluding the fact, that mica has best seeker also, not just manouverability in close range, and stating 77-1 pulls like mica on short range.
not what i said,… you’re confusing forcing a notch (which makes lose energy = speed) with killing someone at 80km,… i never said it would be a kill,… you all read what you want to read there.
to force a notch in the first place, missile needs to pose a threat to defending aircraft. to pose a threat to defending aircraft, missile needs to have enough energy to land a hit.
if i see hornet launching C5 at me from 80km, while i wont keep flying straight, to defeat it it would require minimal manuevering from me.
only 80km shot considered threat is fakour 90, if both are flying on 6km+ altitude and opponent is just flyings straight/ doing less than minimal manouvering :D
I think that everyone is just confused as why you present most unlikely scenario (80km launch to force a notch, focusing a single plane in 16v16 game) as baseline for considering whenever MICA is good or not.
So now we start this skill issue talk, while it is proven so many times by different players to you, that micas are actually busted , and this game is actually favouring micas playstyle?
It’s just skill issue that Rafale is doing 1.5/2x better compared to similiar airframes ( Typhoon and EF) and only skill is making that difference, not the missiles.
PS. I dont recall anyone else but you saying anything about skill issue
French mains when they have the use the best plane with the best defensive suit in the game to notch inferior missiles so they can use their vastly superior missile within 25km instead of relying on pure luck and skill issue in BVR.
Maybe when they buff EFT up to IRL performance, but it’s still underperforming in all respects. Let alone the massive performance impact not having HOBS has and the really poor state of AMRAAMs
