My UHT with only 8 PARS and 0.000001% chance of killing a single tank. Where is my 1 shot kill compensation?
theres also the fact that there are no reliable sources that show Mi28 with 8 LMURs, they all only show 4, more specifically only the outer pylons iirc
Evidence has already been shown for JAGMs and LMURs. [Not my opinion.]
Not sure why you’re so militant on lowering the BR of Mi-28NM.
Mi-28NM is a powerful vehicle and easily worthy of 13.0, if not higher. [My opinion.]
Edit changed “It’s” to “Mi-28NM is”.
yes for JAGM, not for LMUR
how? UHT is the same BR as it despite not having LDIRCM and only PARS instead of LMUR
Don’t act like the AH-64E isn’t just as overpowered as the Mi-28NM. Same goes for Z-10ME.
Can’t overpressure the roof with HEAT warheads without excessive explosive filler. Not to mention HEAT jets are relatively spall-less and require internal cooling of the copper and high speed ricochets.
Hungary is their headquarters. Russia is where they started out in 2002. Very few Russian workers still exist in the company.
Like I saw in a video, 8 (really 6 because who doesn’t carry at least one pylon of A-A missiles) of almost guaranteed kills, if they don’t smoke or drive behind buildings. Compared to 16 of all other Helis.
Z-10 is by far the most OP with the new BA-11’s. And has been for ages with the TY-90’s.
I forgot they got 16 BA-11s…
for you its okay to complain, german dont have a powerfull missile and they deserve to have a upgrade, but leave no excuse for the ah64
Reduction of a weapon count does not result in BR decrease, you can have a single LMUR, and it will automatically go up to 13.0 lmao. You still have pylons full of Atakas and Vikhrs. 4 LMURS and 6 beam riders would still be an incredible loadout. Come on dude, you know better than that.
@ItsOnyy
Reduction of weapon count does and has resulted in BR decreases:
JH-7, F-5, Gripen, etc are all lower BRs than equivalent flight performance jets with more missiles.
Lynx is a lower BR than AH-64DJP.
If your theory was correct, then JH-7A and JH-7 would be the same BR.
Lynx and AH-64DJP would be the same BR.
I don’t want the Mi-28NM to be a lower BR. [My only take in this post.]
so its mean that if they add the ka52m, it would still be a 13.0 even tho it can use max 4 lmur. i guess the mi28 is still going to be the op one
And nobody has ever thought to themselves, “I am adamant and militant about wanting to reduce the BR change of the Mi-28, fewer LMURs per pylon? It’s only fair it goes down”. Like dude, it will stay at 13.0 regardless. Even without LMURs. You and your awful takes, Alvis.
They’re going to ignore it completely because it doesn’t fit their narrative rsrsrs
that was… what, 4 kills with 16 missiles ?
LMUR is the exact example of what is wrong with the devs implementation :
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it lofts with a decent attack angle and hits the roof, unlike all other missiles that are also supposed to do it but don’t in game (Spikes, PARS, Hellfires, Akeron)
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The SAP warhead, which is more tailored for light vehicles and fixed targets, is somehow more efficient than tandem HEAT against tanks
All helis with this feature are a problem, though i suggest you read the topic’s title and first post again, as it is specifically about LMURs
you know
that’s not professional.
I don’t know about PARS and spike but changing the warhead on JAGM to the same type as M908 on Abrams can help
I sure do love having my Merkava’s roof armor nerfed to allow the Mi-28NM LMUR to kill it.
Before the LMUR was added:

A few days after the LMUR was added (note that the Strv 122 got a similar change):

Here in War Thunder, it makes sense that a 200mm composite slab designed for Chemical Protection spaced off a 40mm internal armor plate only results in 50mm of HE protection.

Seriously though. It was underperforming before by a lot, and now it doesn’t exist. That roof protection in Gaijin’s eyes is about the same in thickness as a Type 10.

