Has been shown via aero heating that it’s Mach 5+, they also show that it’s peak velocity is ≈60% higher than comparable missiles.
Also note it’s 20kg lighter than MICA yet(even when mica is soon fixed) has about the same or slightly more fuel mass.
CAMM has 1150m/s dV in game. and is 10kg heavier, so you can see how that becomes very fast pretty quickly. (1600m/s dV), which is Mach 4.6, So including drag and launch speed you can see how Mach 5+ occurs.
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Comparable missile is AIM-9 which is 2.5, that would put ASRAAM at Mach 4 in the most favorable conditions.
Mach 5+ is very questionable, maybe CAMM is overtuned
Comparable in what sense, for marketing comparisons its likely IRIS-T, whatever it is it has a short sustainer profile.
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Nope, its valid based on motor diagrams and the fact in v-launch camm is capable of mach 3 and thus must have a dV > 1028m/s
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You think they wouldn’t use the global standard for short range IR missile that also happens to make a bigger better looking number when you compare it to the ASRAAM?
Not everywhere is sea level
any feasible launch altitude for a ground based AD in the uk is not going to be much higher than sea level.
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Well it lists example 5th generation missiles as IRIS-T and AIM-9X one is Mach 3, the other >2.5, usually M2.8 iirc.
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They could still just use 2.5 to make the missile look better, that’s the typical public figure.
Well the numbers support Mach 5 unfortunately.
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Maybe at or over Mach 2 from a euro fighter pushing into low earth orbit
Its far from unfeasible.
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Has temperature been account for? I’ve read that CAMM was tested in northern Sweden, it gets awfully cold up there which drops the speed for a given Mach number
If it needed 1028 m/s delta v to meet its performance requirements at normal conditions, it could go down to anywhere from 980-1000m/s when you look at what the actual conditions would be in such a location
In winter, speed of sound could be 310-315m/s which would make delta v less than 950m/s
Tbf your method of figuring out the MICA’s fuel mass was very faulty, trying to pixel measure in the first place ending up being wrong. I had someone else look at the nato paper and everything was there to calculate the MICA’s fuel mass.
Ahh how did they do that/what did they get?
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My method was mainly just working out what fuel would be required for a 1000m/s dV, any pixel measuring was just an estimate of what would be possible.
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Try with the realistic 950m/s delta v on CAMM
CAMM was tested in multiple places.
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what is your claim for “realistic” deltaV?
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Test range temperatures affecting Mach number
It would still fulfill Mach 3 surface launched claim