Meteor:
Specification:
Mass - 190kg
Cruise Speed > Mach 4
Motor Type - Solid Fuel Booster + Solid Fuel Ramjet (fixed duct)
Fuel Type: Cast Reduced Smoke Booster + Boron Loaded Solid Fuel Gas Generator.
Length - 3.7m
Diameter - 177.8mm
Range - 200+km
NEZ - 100+km
TTI - Less than 90s to 100km
Warhead - Blast Fragmentation - Mass ?
Component Breakdown:
A3M Specification:
(WIP).
@Fireball_2020 switching thread.
Anyway, we are going around with lots of theoretical. I think we need to have a better look at all of this before drawing any clear conclusions (as clear as we can get them anyway)
Agreed
some of the stuff i have that could be helpful to paint a picture of what the missile is capable of
FIT FOR MISSION – DESIGN TAILORING ASPECTS OF THROTTLEABLE DUCTED ROCKET PROPULSION SYSTEMS - this file has general info on the principle of the meteor
History of Ducted Rocket Development at Bayern-Chemie - this one is more like a continuation of the last one, it has some repeated info but has new details
Current MBDA R&T Effort on Ram/Scramjet and Detonation Wave Engine - ramjet and scramjet info, but on pages 12-14 you can see stuff being talked about the a3m (?)
IMEMG European IM Day 18-19 May 2017 - pages 10 - 12 has info on the heat resistance of the meteor’s and asraam’s casing
ADA257018 - Airbreathing Propulsion For Missiles and Projectiles - pages 33 - 44 has very detailed info on an air to air ramjet powered missile, with range tables, flight profile, thrust profile, etc. it’s not directly related to the meteor or any of the development missiles like the a3m but it’s still really good to get an idea of how a missile of this type works in details
i believe this is an older brochure, i think it has more info than the current brochure on MBDA’s website
a page from a german magazine talking about the a3m, i’ll only post these two images here, the original source is in german
one of the most solid info in some of these files i sent is that the meteor should have approximately 2.5x - 3x more energy than a simarly sized solid fueled missile (amraam B? C?)
Couple bits from me
Max speed above mach 4 and time to 100km of 1.30 minutes;
NEZ 100km;
Smoke reduced propellant;
They’re not being helpful with the “exceeding Mach 4” maximum speed talk… can we assume it’s Mach 4.5 (until better sources become available)?
NEZ of 100km is utterly ridiculous
TTI will be insane
do we know at what launch conditions all of this can be achieved? otherwise gajin might make it only possible at 15km going like mach 2.5
Awesome marketing lie sources
100 km against what? An AWACS? A sitting duck? I’d believe that
an SR71 flying at Mach 3.3 at 85,000 ft directly towards the launch aircraft
What makes the meteor so good at what it does is the throttleable engine, it optimizes speed and fuel usage depending on what the target is currently doing. If the target is flying straight away it will use less fuel so that the range increases, if the target is flying towards you it will speed up to have as high of a hit probability as possible, if the target is maneuvering in an attempt to doge it will conserve energy and use the engine when it’s reasonable to do so. All this while still aiming for still having fuel enough left for a terminal boost in speed to increase hit probability.
Gripen E could use this one in the near future.
If ramjet mraam type missiles so much stronger what solid propellant mraam type missiles, why US China Russia and etc , why they abandoned all their development of ramjet missiles
Any source with numbers on the seekerhead?
more expensive, worse close range performance, limited maximum speed (they are very inefficient above mach 3-3.5)
also more points of failure and less reliability than a well designed solid rocket motor
As long as you’re fast enough for the ramjet to begin working, it’s good enough. You don’t need to be super fast like for AIM-120C-5 on Typhoons or at basically Mach 2 with Rafale & MICA, although it helps in covering distance fast earlier on before the coasting/low thrust part of the flight.
Altitude helps obvs, the lower the drag the better for fuel efficiency
Basically an improved MICA seeker
Yeah I’ve heard this, what I mean is if someone has something I can read this from.
iirc the source for that is it being made by the same company, and having similar external physical properties
