Meet Major Update “Sons of Attila”!

LMAO yeah the Mig29 and the human brain are much more efficient at performing the same immense calculations as the digital FBW computer to move the F16, a Highly unstable computer designed airframe in the most energy saving tightest maneuvers. Sure bro!

bro, somebody drew the Mig 29 on a piece of paper in Soviet Russia and it just magically has same similar rate capabilities?

Oh btw, how am I coping? The F16 is doing exactly as its designed to do. Slaughter lesser Soviet designs. You are more than welcome to come play the SMT with me and we will do just fine.

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Once again you cant accept the fact that Usa isnt the only nation who can build proper machines. Looks like you have some serious ego issues.

F-16 is limited to 25 degree by FWB system while Mig29 can achieve 26 degree if you dont exceed aoa limits and lets not forget F-16 is very unstable design unlike Mig29.

But sure lets take your claims more seriously instead of taking Mig29’s flight manual values.

Honestly you upgraded yourself from bein clown to entire circus buddy.

26 degrees for a fraction of the time the F16 can maintain 25. That is why the F16 is better and achieving high alpha and pitch immediately. Its highly unstable.

You think they made a highly unstable aircraft that cannot be flown by the human brain alone for giggles?

We are over using the thread in this debate. I cannot go any longer message me or play with me or not. bye

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F-16 cannot achieve higher alpha then Mig29, FBW system simply prevents you to pull those values.

Also Mig29 maintains 26 degree of aoa not achieves for a fraction time.

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Pather I am getting my butt kicked in this SMT.

Not joking I am literally getting stomped out by F16s rn. I still do not thing we should nerf them though.

Hungary is the only one using it. Everyone else has turned it down are just started trials. So at this point it was made for Hungary. Apparently I know how to use Google better than you.

İ told you Ziggy, i told you.

The only nerf F-16’s needs is the limit their airframe to 13.5G, Meanwhile Mig29’s needs to get their old fm back.

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That’s literally how you are behaving right now.

You keep insulting ziggy for no reason and dismissing his arguments, because apparently you just don’t have other answers than “no you bad, i good hurrdurr”…

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İ dont take guys like you seriously when they stick their noise into something they have no clue.

But you can always try to bait someone else, good luck on that.

Lmao like i give a shit.

I don’t have a clue about insults and acting like a brat? Sure buddy.

No need to bait you when your argument style is just “no you”. You aren’t worth it anyway.

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İf you dont give a shit then why did you bother to reply in the first place? Seems like you got some ego issues as well.

Anyway seems like talking to you is just wastin my time, enjoy bein muted :)

Can’t you guys stop discussing one specific vehicle and go at each other’s throats please? This is a thread about the whole patch, after all…

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No nerfs! I say unlock the alpha and look into thrust.

I am having a hard time believing that the mig29 thrust was this week especially on low fuel. I have video of me demolishing two guys in Mig29s and myself in the Barak. They had zero chance. though they wanted to rate together instead go vertical.

I do not know. I am gonna play the SMT as much as possible only tonight.

Any reason as to why the Barak, the most CAS focused F-16, doesn’t get Mavericks?

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Guys did the SMT have any form of FBW?

Starting to smash in the SMT. It seems to be more of a boom and zoomer. it handles really well at high speed

Barak has less powerful engine and more weight then F-16C.

And you’re telling me you destroyed 2 Mig29 in rate fight despite it should be the opposite and this is fine huh?

Shows how little you care about balance.

This is all very nice indeed. But this update took away my game progress in the Israel Aviation Tech Tree! Didn’t you think of that? A large number of players have lost their progress and you refuse to deal with it!

My case:
Changing the Israeli aircraft technology tree. And loss of game progress This month I focused on researching the Israeli VAUTOR IIA aircraft. (before the update, the machine was rated and classified as grade V. (5) and now it is grade VI. (6) I have 136,000 research points on this machine. But thanks to your update the machine is locked and I collected 136,000 research points for nothing!

What do you suggest?

I want to solve it.

Best regards
Y2Jay

Barak has an extremely powerful engine regardless and less draggy than the Mig29 with big r73s and r27s hanging from them yes. The r27ER is about 800lbs if I remember correctly.

I still have a better kd in the SMT than my F16C and F16D as well. the SMT is not a dogfighter as silly as those sounds. It’s actually is best flown as a point defense interceptor. I avoid getting into silly turn fights, use my superior ranged missiles and IRST.

What I can say without a shadow of a doubt. They need to increase the roll rate. It is horrendous.

Barak is less draggy then SMT?

Have you ever looked into Barak recently? İt has second canopy alongside with giant spine and its almost 4 tons heavier then regular F-16.

Mig29’s drag value is no where close to be real right now, in fact it has unrealistic level of drag level.

Also vehicles performance doesnt determine by your preference Ziggy so rather then your playstyle it should be determine by flight manuals.

do we have test drive links for event tanks?