Yes and have you looked and the tractor like body of the Mig29 SMT with a refueling probe welded on the side of the nose? It also has a humpback with heavy hydraulic fuel pumps shoved in its spine.
Yes, perhaps drag needs to be reduced in the SMT, but its nowhere near as slick as any F16.
Can you backup your claim with actual source?
Having problem with Fulcrum’s? I just did some extensive testing. Ignore the MiG-29’s, they’re actually worse than the MiG-23MLD… Like, by a large margin. The margin is actually so massive that a fully spaded MiG-29 flies WORSE than a completely un-spaded MiG-23MLD… I wish I were joking, but this is where we are, somehow. Is this a mistake? Is this because the Fulcrum E is coming and they wanted to nerf the earlier Fulcrum’s? It’s super weird, basically it’s only viable for BVR now and that’s it, and you only get 2 shots before you have to run for your life.
What? that a retractable refueling probe welded on the nose with its hydraulic extension does induce drag or weight? or the enlarged hump with extra fuel tanks and their fuel pumps is not either?
You got me Panther. No source.
Over a spine and two-seater canopy of the F16 D? Just the fact that the F16 is smaller reduces the amount of surface that must cut through the air. Again, I do not have a source. Just my elementary knowledge on the subject of fluid dynamics.
No I agree, there needs some work on its FM.
But I have a 4:1 kd in it so far iirc. its not that bad. Just some fine tuning is required.
If you expect the jet will rate and knife fight on par with the F16. It’s not going to happen.
We may get additional nose authority and roll rate and energy recovery from pre & post stall maneuver’s. But nothing more. It’s not capable, not with our current engines and 700lb R26ERs hanging from it. The R73 is not a tiny missile either fyi. Its no R60M.
Oh don’t get me wrong, i have a high K/D too, but that’s only because I’ve been using it as a hit-and-run ninja. I equip 2 R-27ER’s and no fuel tank, climb to 20,000 and launch them at Hypersonic speeds and then run back to the airfield before anyone can retaliate. That’s not exactly how I envisioned using an aircraft feared for it’s maneuverability globally… I might as well be flying an MiG-31instead with the way i’m using the darn thing. Haha
Yes, it had insane maneuverability only in a pre & post stall.
It does not have the high-speed maneuverability or built on the same doctrine of Energy Maneuverability of the F16s. Both highly maneuverable fighters in different aspects of dogfighting.
I do think they need to open up the nose authority so it do what it was designed to do. But its never going to rate like the f16. Going vertical and immediately swinging its nose around with R73s is where it excels.
Well they actually have source on Mig29’s thread, you can check there to see how wrong in game drag is buddy.
I said drag being reduced can be explored definitely. Just that it will never be as aerodynamic as an F16.
Yet Mig29’s aerodynamic design allowing to reach and pass 1500km on straight line while having combat loadout, on the other hand F-16 cannot do the same with similiar loadout and P/W ratio.
F-16 is not as aerodynamic as you think it is Ziggy.
Maybe you’re confusing with F-15?
Also dont forget there are multiple planes that can go toe to with F-16 in rate fight while bein more agile at high speeds. Best example is Eurofighter Typhoon.
Hi , im a sim and realistic air battle , i do think im not bad at it and i do know planes and aérodynamic physic, i can tell that the f16 is pretty acurate on his flight model except at low speeds and high altitude where the f16 overperform and the mig29 have serious drag issue, but thats not the point , i want to know how the top tier is suppose to work now cause f16 slam everythings, f16 barac 2 have exactly the same engine than the f14b but the f16 engine have more thrust ,why?
Finaly ,F16 will just ruins everythings and u people(gaijin included)aggree with that?
At this point why i cant come with my catalina at top tier?i have approximatly the same sustain turn rate than my new brand mig29 smt.
With hope for the best and in the waiting of a constructive answer,bye.
The F16 not a 60,000lb Tomcat. That is why the Barak moves better that the Tomcat. It probably as more thrust because the Tomcats engine is not the export variation of that engine. I don’t know. lol
I agree with the notion that the F16 is a superior aircraft to the Mig29. that is why they get Aim7Fs with no midcourse guidance as the M is supposed to. Aim7M is copy paste. It is also why the Mig29 gets all of the best missiles for close range and long range. IR and Radar.
Should the F16 stomp out mig29? it’s not. it’s my best performing aircraft of the new patch.
What do you want the mig29 to do? rate fight with an F16? it’s not designed to do that. Its designed to have really high thrust and do summersaults and point its nose at people. Which it does need improvement.
If you look closely in xray mode you can see the thrust of the barak 2 engine is superioir to the thrust of the f14b tomcat
I see it now. But one is export the other is not. Additionally did Isreal make these engines in house or General Dynamics/lockheed? I do not know.
Excuse me General Electric.
the barak engine is a previous version of the tomcat one, so in reality the tomcat engines should be a little more powerfull
u didnt get it mate,
f16 barak have the same engine but not the same thrust, i speak about the engine not the plane.
I want thhat my catalina stop outrate my SMT on 2 circle fight…
I already saw that. But they are not? they do not have the same deignations… Are we looking at the B model tomcat and the Barak right?
yep GE100 and GE400 ,same thrust but not in
warthunder
Top tier air battle are unbalanced in favor of the f16,
Cause? F16 overperform a bit and the SMT (wich must be his counter) fly the same as a catalina(joke,but not so in fact…)
I do not know I would have to look at a source for both engines.
As for the Mig29SMT. Does it need work yes. But how are you not outrating Catalinas or F4s like everyone is claiming?
700-800lb missiles do weigh it down a lot. Whats the fuel state? are there additional missiles hanging from it? a lot of things play a factor now in WT I have noticed.
But I agree the SMT is a little heavy that I personally think it should be more responsive and the roll is way to slow and there needs more alpha.
I just do not believe if all that was approved is going add up to the Mig29 people imagine.