As an avid 8.3 enjoyer, I think this family of tanks represents a very concrete problem in downtiers. They are a menace and can only really be stopped if the player makes a mistake.
This isn’t the first time we’ve faced this kind of problem in War Thunder, but these issues usually get fixed eventually.
Some examples:
T55AM-1: not a particularly strong 8.7 vehicle, but a menace at 7.7 — nerfed
Jumbo 76: same story
Maus: same
Merkava 2D: same
And many others.
From what I keep seeing, however, this family of vehicles remains untouched even after the 8.0–10.0 BR decompression
They should receive a BR increase. While that would make them harder to play, it would also free an entire BR bracket below them from this level of tyranny.
ps: this post speak of grb
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So to what BR would you put them.
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They have fairly weak hulls, use kinetic ammo not Heatfs
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I truly never got the deal of why ppl hate the jumbo i just memorised its hull mg position it dies instantly, or i barrel and track it.
Either works on the jumbo 75 or 76
I feel like most players saying the jumbo is hard to beat just doesent know how to deal with it.
Some people are even too lazy to do that, let alone make presets based on lineups 🤣
Jumbo 76 was very fun when I was stock grinding it a couple of months ago, for the longest time I was afraid because I wasn’t that good and didn’t understand basic positisioning.
Besides i like to play the Strv 74 so the APDS just cuts through the turret front anyway lol
There are different vehicles with different capabilities.
The ones you mentioned have their weaknesses’ and can be exploited by other vehicles - some of which vehicles - only have a limited use - but as long as they do their job . . . .
What is the point of me having a tank that is one of a few to be able to kill a maus if the maus does not exist at my br?
does my tank now need a br increase?
At the end of the day - If all tanks/vehicles are gonna perform the same - why have different tanks in the first place other than appearance?
if it was gaijin to answer this qestion it would be yes look at atgm td. apart from that i dont undestand your reasoning in relacion to the original topic
peak answer tm the problem stand in other factor than killing it
What’s the issue with these vehicles exactly? They are almost always an easy kill for me.
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You are thinking on a personal 1 person basis - which is a problem with this game.
You have 100k people thinking and playing on the basis that their vehicle is and should be superior to others in terms of performance or br.
9.0/9.3 is fine for them, the only good thing about them is their mobility. All of them lack a good round or armor to be placed any higher then their current BR
to unberable to face at 8.3 8.0 is better if they suffer then a wole br look at the t55am1 it got the same tratment and 7.7 now have hope
Ok lol - Lets make all 8.3 vehicles perform IDENTICAL - great. - and if they do not perform exactly identical - there is a problem - but at the same time - want different characteristics for each vehicle YOU play.
Why research the next vehicle if it is at the same br? . . . . … . - judging by this post it would be unbalanced if it had any defining characteristics from the previous other than aesthetics.
As such you would have any given BR full of vehicles with the exact parameters outside of how it looks.
Players should reflect and adjust their gameplay rather than complaining that an enemy tank has 4mm more of armour than them or 8 more horsepower.
Use your vehicles and terrain better and these trivial differences would be less of an issue.
But then why do you only ask for MBT, KPZ-70 and XM-803 to be moved up? Why not Leopard A1A1/1A5 or T-72A. All these tanks that i have mentioned are better then XM-803, MBT/KPZ-70 in all aspect except for mobility and are also at 9.0/9.3
ironicaly speaking t72 are less of a problem tnx to russian desin flaw even m48 super are less of a problem for the lack of mobility or armor in the case of the leo. on paper should be betther but the limitacion they face make them less of a probblem
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At the end of the day, majority of players just want to lemming drive, aim and shoot.
Maybe they should reflect on that and use their vehicles and terrain better , understand and read the enemy and their team better.
Use vehicles that benefit their team on that particular map and team composition - rather than simply using a default method.
They wont - instead they complain about other teams, vehicles or mentality that prevents them from using their stupid 1 dimensional, pre-determined action every battle.
I.E - Choose a heavy tank to go onto the flank whilst looking in the opposite direction.
Taking a light or medium and driving directly into the entire enemy team.
Over extending and wondering why no backup.
Getting into an aircraft asap with all spawn points and suicide bombing and leaving.
The list goes on.
It purely stems from a lack of awareness and an expectation that the vehicle you are using at that given time should have a significant advantage over the enemy tanks - whilst also thinking the reverse when using the opposite tanks.