Maus must be lowered to 7.3

i do. I hate it with my guts.

That’s not how he meant “struggling”. You have 3K/D in it and you don’t even enjoy it! I take it as a sure sign that the vehicle is doing alright 😁

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Then there is the whole ‘situational vehicle’ thing. Some people don’t understand that it is okay for a vehicle to be situational. It’s okay for a vehicle to not be good to spawn in some situations or even on some maps. Hence the lineups. The good thing about these situational vehicles is when the… you guess it… the situation is right, it is really time when that vehicle kicks-ass and takes names.

Think of the Maus and Pz2000 as a buddy cop comedy. Maus being Sgt Murtaugh and the Pz2000 being Sgt Riggs. One is always going on about being ‘too old for this s***’ and the other one is a bit mentally unstable, but together they get the job done. Thanks for coming to my TE- Lethal Weapon talk.

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thats such a crazilly good comparisson

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Lmao this is so fucking true. I also imagine every time the PzH gets a kill it says “just like opa!” but the grandpa Maus in question is too rough to just give open validation and grunts non-committally :D

Yeah, anthropomorphising vehicles is fun like that. Sometimes when I take the Tiger II or the Jagdtiger higher than their proper BRs and kill something modern-ish or do well in a match, I’ll type “grandpa’s still got it” or “WW2 sends its regards”, it’s amusing :D

Another “buddy cop” example of mine - I used to play a lot of 6.7 together with a veteran friend who really showed me the ropes of the game. He played France and I Germany. At the time the event EBR was still 6.7. Often our first spawns were EBR/Jagdtiger or EBR/Tiger II, and that’s a very effective combination because one flanks and one pushes, but it’s also visually comical to me because they really look like characters out of some cartoon. The small lethal ninja dude and the old grizzled fatass. :D

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i like that comparisson better
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What are you saying?
The Maus is played methodically and armored. Its angling protects it from HEATFS rounds above 90mm.
Its ammo allows it to deal with tanks designed around the same time as it, such as T-54 and M48 with relative ease.

How is that the opposite of its design?

I use Maus on many close range maps, as well as a number of many longer range maps.

“its because maus cant stay straight front and not get penned”

Going down the road east of B/C on Advance To The Rhine with the Maus is absolute peak superheavy gameplay. Some of my best matches with it have been there. Literal roadblock gameplay lol.

ahem The M48 prototypes (T48s) were designed in early 50s, not by the end of World War 2.
Even M47 is early 50s tank (result of combining T42 turret [which is a 1948 tank] and M46 hull).

EDIT: In the closing stages of WW2, main goal was improving mobility of M26 by giving it AV1790 V12 engine which resulted in M46

I always see the parallels to Tiger 1 complaints, though I see less Tiger 1 complaints these days despite the Tiger 1 being penned by even 4.7 things from the front.
Of course, there are 6.7s that can pen the Maus from the front as well: Type 61, M26 firing APCR, etc.

The difference here is there are more 4.7s than there are 6.7s in this case, yet only Maus gets complained about these days.

Are people forgetting their lessons from Tiger 1? Expecting Maus’s front armor to bear everything just because Tiger 2 fixed a lot of the issues Tiger 1 had in the front protection?

Maus has 180mm of side armor… for a reason.

7.7 is fine. Any lower and it just curb stops in downtiers.

What needs to happen is decompression. Which more players need to push for.

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  1. Wont change anything
  2. Cant work
  3. Gaijin tried to but failed so bad people played arcade instead
  4. In what world you would need 15.0 when we aint even close to filling spaces at 12.0

I just had a great idea! How about, we don’t do that and keep the maus at 7.7 where it belongs. I’ve been playing 7.0 ground rb and in every single game there is at least one maus that shreds the lobby. It’s perfectly fine where it is, it’s armour can still hold up against most 7.7 tanks and the survivability is quite good

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I’m sorry but no these 2 screenshots should say everything you need to know
Screenshot 2025-11-06 18.13.07

would I love for this yes but I also understand that the Maus would literally be a nuke printing machine more than it already has the potential for. If I, a not so good player can have a positive kd in the Maus then that should say everything you need to know. Maus in a 6.3 down tier would be a nightmare for everyone except the team with the Maus on it or people that have APDS, HEATFS, and possibly some HEAT rounds

Arguably MAUS would actually do it’s job at 7.3. Though no way in hell any 6.3 should see this beast. He’s not that big of an asset for the team. If the whole enemy team is able to perform basic thinking tasks it is.
CAS haunts him, gremlins don’t allow him to shoot and, well, big flat wall of a sidearmor isn’t that big of a deal if you aim from a proper angle. An absolute nightmare for anyone who never fought it though.
(Leave it at 7.7 but increase it’s max speed to 70km/h)

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well it sure as hell is especialy when he sometime ago met 6.7
two mauses could actually win an entire game just by existing and taking shots of the enemies. Especially on smaller maps

That’s what I’m talking about. If you’ll be able to think - you just wouldn’t shoot it. Just cap the point, keep him tracked for CAS or whatever. Man, MAUS can’t turn at all and 20km/h of max speed on a nice day isn’t that great. And another weakness of MAUS are HE slingers, it is actually kinda easy to overpressure it.

yes, thats the only thing maus is scared arond that ratings. THo without LRF its not that easy to shoot the weakspots on it.
I myself used to tend to use T30 when i met Maus when it was 7.7

then it would shoot you, or its team would shot you. Its not that complicated fr.

Maus was unstoppable force at 6.7, i cant get around it being able to meet 6.3

I mean okay, you would capture the point where maus istn. But then you need to get to the point where it is. And its not that easy to do, especially when someone drags around Maus for support

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You know what can stop it? A hill. MAUS is pretty strong on a maps without flanking routes, which we have like 1? 0? The unkillable wall playstyle of maus requires you to keep distance - which makes you a dead asset for the team and an easy target for CAS. It’s strong, don’t get me wrong. Not stronger than is-4m though. Upsides and downsides, you know. I never argued for a battlerating drop, but cutting it’s uptiers at 8.0 would help a lot.