“Creates a control force that ensures rotation”
Uh, I don’t see any solenoids on this design. Are you 100% sure this isn’t literally just making the missile spin because its a rolling airframe and it needs to do that?
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Yep, although in WT it would be INS, much akin to how the 114 preforms post launch.
Would be neat to see how it would improve the 7E and F/M, or if it would just mean sparrows dont always self die off the rail if they dont get guidance.
Would explain why the motors dont exist on production makes of the Iglas, as you can just do the same thing by just tweaking the rear fins.
It’s also exactly what the stinger does, which makes sense considering both Igla and Strela before it just stole the US design.
Thinking about it too that charge design is not at all optimal for high flow either, EG the dragon ATGM directly fires a charge in the direction that is needed and they are tiny by comparison.
This is more like a long burn motor, especially with the hollow cavity in it, as you said, this could be a slow burn gas generator to keep the missile spinning during flight, but angle rate, no chance.
New thread for this change here:
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So cool soviets and russians publish manuals for curent usage for prototypes instead of production missiles
Missile gains rotation right with launch from tube and later by wings and destabilizers
Yep, just like how the manuals and tech documentation on the Yak-141 cited it’s sensor and ordinance capabilities that never existed or how the M1A2’s manual demonstrated how to arm and set up STAFF shells that were never produced.
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Keep coping
Good argument, I guess you have nothing actually productive to add to this discussion then.
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Lol, I provided MANUALS, you provided nothing but just clear cope
So does the Stinger,
Maybe it’s a rough translation, but this says “To ensure rotation” like its a redundant feature. Is this powder charge system mentioned in the manual at all?
I provided you videos of the missile being used, with no visible turn after launch, before the main motor engages, and the missiles themselves without any visible motors that your manuals claim the missiles have.
Smooth metal and screws aren’t capable of generating thrust my guy, nor are proximity fuses.
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Additional little bit too, the Piorun’s primary control fins are slightly curved to achieve the roll effect as well, with no visible motor components present behind the fins as well.
Ah here is a even better one, a 9K39 being fired by a Ukrainian soldier with no visible holes under the primary fins.
Cant get much more accurate than this, given any holes or the gas they would expel would be visible in this picture.
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ha this topic is making its great return i see…
Buff to igla heh ? So uh, 22G for stinger, 25G for mistral, and mistral II and III when gaijin ? (just trolling a bit)
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igla was not buffed its still the same like pre patch problem is not many people used it on helicopters and now that is on spaa people just realise that igla had that lol
ha, fair enough.
The other manpads are still missing their correct overload though
Here a better translation:
Reduction of the close distance kill zone is achieved by automatically giving the missile the required angles of anticipation and elevation, which is provided by the control scheme on the initial section, which is part of the UVK, and the gunpowder control engine installed in the steering compartment of the missile. The gunpowder control engine provides gas-dynamic turning of the missile after its departure from the tube to the required angles of preemptive elevation according to signals from the control scheme at the initial section of the flight.
Source (p.85)
@Lolman345 I guess this is the work of this “correction engine”.