Mandatory 3 tank lineup

How many of you are tired of the 1 tank lineup premium warriors ruining your top tier matches, or any level matches for that matter? 3 out of 5 matches that I play have 3/4 of my team in the match with a single tank in their lineup. Within the first 60 seconds of the match they will all be gone in the hangar condemning us to lose. At some point, the devs have to do something about this and have a minimum requirement. It is so common that the community refers to them as “Premium Warriors” or other nicknames.

Devs, i would suggest you make a minimum vehicle requirement for matches. That way you will either have to play your lineup, or get punished with a timed out crew for quitting early, thus prohibiting you from screwing over the next matchup with your 1 tank nonsense. If you don’t meet the requirement, then go back down a tier where you belong, grind your way to the top, OR buy more premium vehicles to meet the requirements. Its a win win. Gaijin makes more money, I don’t have to deal with 1 tank lineup chumps. That’s the solution right there.

Lastly, don’t come in here screeching about matchmaking times becoming longer if a vehicle requirement becomes a thing. The vehicle lineup requirement mechanic would end up canceling that argument out because currently we spend more time in a doomed match than we do in matchmaking.

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I have lineups, but still playing 1 spawn because that’s best way to play this game, reasons are here:

  1. Bad map
  2. Constant uptiers
  3. CAS

And what’s the point of winning?? Rewards are almost same, so no… Nothing forces me use 2-3x respawn and get bombed in spawn (or spawncamped).

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Part of the problem ^

  1. map rotation could be better i agree
  2. at top tier there is no more uptier my guy
  3. CAS gets shut down by great SPAA these days. If your team doesn’t use spaa then thats a team issue

If you are getting shutout because your team lost that bad then sit in the screen and dont spawn in. Wait for it to be over. Or get better. With the mechanic im saying, it will force ppl to play the match more and those spawn camped situations will become less.

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I have almost full 10 slot lineups for every country at this point. and i will still practice the one death n leave tactic. why? its a game. idc about you or the team. Yes i enjoy the rewards of winning and dont like it when 1/2 the team doesnt know how to play smartly. but at the same time. its a game my guy. ive come to accept that those of us from the OG wt community dont believe in in leaving right away, while the new ones will die after pushing an open field trying to get the objective like they’re a pre-programmed bot.

But i will leave based on certain criteria and not just cuz i feel like it. I know that it doesnt help being part of the problem but i am legit working on trying to stop leaving after one death. i started because i have nothing left to really grind for. i have what i want. i only really play to have fun. and when i wasnt having fun i would go to hangar, start a new queue, and do it all over again

but yes. i do believe that for top tier it should be a requirement that you have min of 2-3 vics in ur lineup (US mains especially)

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So how do you suppose premium vehicles will work??

yes! lets go! FORCING users to spend up to LITERALLY ONE HUNDRED AND 50 PLUS DOLLARS ($150+) to be able to play with premium vehicles before you’ve grinded a tree? Defeating the entire point of having premium vehicles?

No he’s just a realist, as am I. You can’t just force people to always stay in matches for 15+ minutes without addressing the laundry list of reasons why its perfectly acceptable and even recommended to leave matches early due to gaijin’s awful gameplay mechanics.

So??? Premiums also aren’t at 12.0 my guy

ONLY at top tier.

Doesn’t mean somebody will enjoy playing the match.

Translation: "Do as I say so you can better my enjoyment even though it detracts from your own so I can have more fun. Or simply “get better” whatever this has to do with the conversation

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But top tier is pure ragebait if you don’t sweat and just want to play casualy

Agreed that 1DL is a problem in high tier. The only way a mandatory 3 vehicle lineup would work is if all the vehicles were in the same or adjacent tier. Otherwise what’s to stop players from bringing a premium vehicle and 2 reserve vehicles?

It’s not just poor map rotation that is the problem, it’s the maps themselves. The majority of the maps are just too small for high tier and they are mostly poorly designed. No map should ever have a single spawn location. Capture points are too small and should be larger and spawn protection, especially against CAS, needs a lot of work. Not a lot of fun spawning in only to be attacked by aircraft.

Yes, CAS is still a problem despite the new SPAA.

What’s the difference in just sitting and watching the battle and not spawning in or just quitting after getting killed? Makes no difference.

This is why I find myself playing the low to mid tier games. Players, mostly, play the entire match and will respawn unless it’s an immediate curb stomp and or being spawn trapped.

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You were talking about any level in theead, so i don’t understand what you saying here.

Yeah i have whole life ahead just to sit and watch war thunder matches, interesting way to enjoy gaming.

Doesn’t matter how good you are then fire and forget missile coming to you, or 1k lbs bomb drops next to your tank. Or then playing leopard 1 against xm803, yes still is chance to defeat xm player, but pretty low and playing 8 out of 10 matches in disadvantage isn’t okay.

Again, nothing forces me (or others) to play what I don’t want to play.

And forgot, AAs even top tier ones are useless if pilot has few braincells.

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I enjoy the dialogue and to see the other view points. I also appreciate all the responses btw. What im getting at is there has to be some compromise here as this has gotten to the point of being way to 1 sided. In my opinion, if you want 1 death and re-que, head on over to Call of FPS or whatever your flavor is where the rest of the instant gratification kids hang out.

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Goes without saying, even though this is the second time I’m saying it, that this is also not feasible because you’re asking for somebody to pay $150 or more.

I just now noticed this tidbit. What the hell? What does this even solve? You complain about 1 death leavers but this is functionally the exact same thing and you recommend it.

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Honestly if your not happy with wt you just need to make your own tank sim game

This is you just being nasty, ignorant, and judgemental over something because you’re too emotional. Why don’t you go play a game you enjoy instead? Sound good bud?

Not emotional at all. Theres a problem in the game that needs to be addressed which is agreed upon by the majority of the people i match up with at top tier. 1 death leavers ruin top tier. How does it get fixed

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Ill start by saying that i mostly hate ground , i dont like the gamemode at all.
I understand both sides.
On one hand , its frustrating to see your team just crumble after the first push.
On the other side , in my grind for the CLAWS (and future grind for the AH-64E) , ive noticed one thing : Regardless of how good or bad i do , usually get around 3k RP per match. So from my point of view theres basically no need to do more than a 1KD per match , as i will get get the same research regardless of a win or a loss , and the effort for getting more is just not worth it.

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Nah you don’t get to decide this, it’s clear through your words. You are upset about 1 death leaving so you come here to insult people who do it for very perfectly valid reasons. See here:

Not by ignorant “solutions” that are the equivalent to shock collars trying to not fix the issue but curb the “symptoms”.

70 dollar premium tanks should have at least one permanent backup to discourage one death leaving

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This is something i can concede to. I get this comment

To fix 1DL, gaijin needs to make it worth spawning in again.

I suggest to increase rewards in general, and give the top 3 players on the losing side, winning level rewards.

We also need better high tier maps, and 1 free+2 paid map bans. Giving us the sim sized maps above 9.7 would probably help, as well as removing some maps from the high tier rotation. Many maps will still need to be reworked, but gaijin doesn’t know how to design maps well enough for higher BR battles.

For cas, the airfields should be moved back much further for all BRs, and all bombers and all sub rank VII attacker (with exceptions) should be the only planes that get an airspawn. Air spawn points will also be lower in altitude, and moved behind the airfields.

SPAA needs a mechanic that allows you to spawn, leave SPAA, and respawn it later. The bombers from the WWI event had a mechanic where they could fly to an area outside of the map, and J out without dying, and having most of their SP refunded.

BR decompression is needed to make playing in uptiers worth it too.

I don’t think a mandatory 3 tank lineup would be good, because premiums won’t work with it, and there’s no guarantee that players will even spawn again.

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This is constructive. Well said

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Again, you’re asking for too much intelligence from these so called “devs”. Despite their overwhelming noise about a new anti-cheat solution, cheating is still a very large issue in WT. You’re asking in vain for solutions.

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