Malaya has no business being in the Japanese tech-tree

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I have nothing worthwhile to add to this thread. I agree 👍

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I really like this idea!

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To be honest Malaysia was a somewhat weird choice for me too.

Malaysia was part of the ASEAN Founders ground subtree proposal, where we included the founding members of ASEAN, but their connection to Japan was mainly centered around Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines, and the group as a whole, rather than Malaysia individually.
While players from Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines and Singapore were part of the group making it, I don’t think there was any Malaysian player to give direct insight there either.

While that was just a suggestion, and isn’t the exact set of subtrees we see in game now either, there was a dev statement suggesting they consider the Thailand/Indonesia/Malaysia subtrees as a group of nations subtree rather than multiple individual nation subtrees, similar to BeNeLux (Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg) for France, so it seems the connection to Malaysia is really mainly through Thailand and Indonesia.

Dev Statement

Why they didn’t go with the Philippines instead for a much stronger individual connection to Japan is still a mystery to me. Maybe they thought that the Philippines could more easily be placed somewhere else, for example with the future Korean techtree they said to have planned, or maybe they just thought Malaysian aircraft would sell more premiums now, only the devs know for sure.

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I agree, I honestly don’t see any significance of ASEAN in this context. It’s a fairly new organisational body, made for diplomatic relations. It’s incomparable to the EU or BRICS, NAFTA, etc. It’s not a trade alliance, association of any kind… Fyi, a lot of people fail to recognise that ASEAN is merely a gathering of regional diplomats discussing bureaucracy.

In terms of familiarity, Singapore is much more historically related to us than Thailand or Indonesia. And in terms of military doctrine, it’s prominently British, ofc negating the recent RMAF policies on airframe acquisition, tbh that’s a domestic policy privilege for MINDEF to dicuss BUT historically we’ve always been steadfast in cooperation with ANZAC, and were a subject of the crown.

Thai and Indonesia are as alien to us as the Philippines is to Vietnam. The Indonesians tried to invade us once during the post-war period, And the Thai (Ayyuthaya) had always been the ancient enemy of Sriwijaya (de-facto malayo-polynesian nation-state), which also ruled what was then Temasek (Singapore).

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Are you new to this game? I think we already agreed Malaysia go to Japan is not because it is the most fitted but the second most fitted. British TT is just simply out of space, so we can only choose which fitted well and the options we got is just China and Japan, so is clearly we only left 1 option since under a commies flags is quite unacceptable for most Malaysian

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It’s a mere platform for diplomatic gathering, and there are no membership obligations whatsoever. Hmm, it loosely resembles WEF Davos, but hosted for regional governments. Even China has been known to participate through FM Wang Yi…

I see, I don’t protest that statement, but still there are plenty of other options to add for the Japanese…

And ANZAC forces could just be bunched up into a standalone commonwealth realm sub-tree, and Malaysia fits the bill. This, at least, is completely within grasp.

From business logic, Commonwealth TT are not gonna happened, because it will directly become the strongest TT in game that having all feature of all others tt other then Japan (because Japan didn’t export their weapon) and you won’t want this kind of Chimera in your game because it just siphon players from other TT

Sure… ^-^’

Still, the least complicated solution to avoid compromising Malaysian historical doctrine is to transfer Malayan vehicles into their rightful position in the British tech-tree. Imo, there’s plenty of room for more RMAF F/A-18s and naval RMN assets in Britain. They already have a mix of east and west hardwares/airframes due to India’s involvement. I see no logic in placing a traditional crown-colony nation in the tree of a former axis power that once ravaged the nation-state. Plenty of Malayan soldiers, British and ANZAC pow died fighting for our existential rights, the least we can do is honour them.


Counter arguement
China isn’t part of this.

There’s no point in acknowledging ASEAN, it’s not a collective body of governance… It has no trade/commerce binding agreement or any sort of obligations for member states, nor is it a security association… It’s a platform for political summits. To put it in layman’s terms, it’s a ted-talk for governments, gang… Like fr… Ppl need to chill with shoving this ASEAN thing around, I noticed here that it’s often used in a context that doesn’t reflect it’s REAL LIFE purpose at all.

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Probably Japan main want everything from the ASEAN nations, or Gaijin wants to let Japan main have everything from ASEAN

I mean, the Japanese tech tree itself needs tons of plugging holes. Maybe we all know about Japanese Domestic Tech Tree has holes at the same level as SpongeBob

but well

If we consider…
British gets any more of the extra Commonwealth sub-tree is not possible, and even some ‘key nations’ such as Canada/Australia aren’t allowed to merge, and Gaijin acting lazy on adding India/South African vehicles (which makes having “TWO” sub-trees eventually gone invalid)

But Japanese Tree officially has one (Thai) as a sub-tree, and Gaijin is playing cards like ‘letting everyone assume that Japan will get everything from ASEAN’…

Well, probably both Indonesia and Malaya aren’t ‘officially’ sub-tree of Japan…
And I reckon if Malaysians don’t want to be part of japanese tree, Gaijin need to respect that.

Sigh, according to the current status of British Tech Tree, I don’t think this will go off easily.

ASEAN… maybe easiest, and fancy name of ‘give us everything in southeastern asia’

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They fought under UK in WW2…

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Sorry if I insulted you in anyway, Malaysia is one of my current favorite countries, I’m even tempted to move there. I was just making that statement because Britain already has sub tt with a high quality of vehicles.

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