Making Phantoms Great Again

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They arent playing their own game, crazy. The F4S is a little more balacend at 12.0 but the f4juk defentliy not

Maybe with decompression

That’s not flight model data, that’s team skill data.

@HazelPam7769, @Tymxy.
They probably use stats of F-4J/S to balance F-4J(UK)

I don’t have solid proof, but only this can explain why Gaijin believes F-4J(UK) is fine, and all three of those are sharing the same BR in EVERY game mode despite the fact that F-4J(UK) is worse than other 12.0(ARB) Phantoms in Air sim.

No AIM-7F, no Spey engines. but have higher BR than F-4K/M in air sim and has the same BR as F-4J/S.

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I’ve honestly given up on it at this point. They just keep giving me the same recycled excuses. Meanwhile, the Iranian F-14 is being moved up to 13.7, yet the Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2 are staying at 13.3. That alone says a lot about their priorities. They clearly don’t care about the British Phantoms. At times, it genuinely feels like they don’t even play their own game, especially when they continue to ignore years of feedback about how poor the F-4J(UK) is. A lot of people have already said they’d be perfectly happy with the FGR.2 moving to 12.3 if it received the same missile loadout as the tornado F.3 at 12.0. Instead, we’ll probably be waiting another few years before they even consider moving it back down, or, more likely, they’ll forget about the FGR.2 altogether, leaving it as one of the weakest aircraft at 12.3.

Have fun fighting the Su-30s.

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Well you wouldnt be wrong there ngl, I have a feeling some of them havent touched 12.0-12.7 in a while

Iirc they are carried in the outer wing pylons, 2 of them would be fine like the bol on the premium harrier t10, 1 would lead to a asymetrical loadout which would kinda mess with the performance

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This copy-pasting of the base Phantom models needs to stop bro…

F-4E AUP (Greek Subtree) has the wrong centerline drop tank. The Greeks use the late-model F-15-style drop tank, not the early-style 600-gallon one…

Plus, another AMRAAM-carrying Phantom for a non-US nation. When are we getting the F-4E Terminator 2020? It better not go to Italy.

who else would it go too?

Does a US-operated AIM-120-capable Phantom exist…?
Then it might happen.

When Turkish tech tree be added, either as a sub-tree or an independent one. Then we will get it.

Does a US-operated AIM-120-capable Phantom exist…?
Then it might happen.

No, sadly. But US desparately needs a late model Phantom to fill the tech tree gap. Maybe not AMRAAM, but AIM-7M or something…

When Turkish tech tree be added, either as a sub-tree or an independent one. Then we will get it.

I sure hope a Turkish subtree goes to US or something. I for sure thought we’d get the Greek one since we already had the Greek AH-64… but noooo…

I just want a late model Phantom in the only tech tree I’ve grinded so far. I don’t want to have to play another nation to play more Phantoms…

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yeah, the only reason why i’m playing israil is for the US stuff, So the Magachs, A-4s, (maybe) Machbets, and F-4s, and as of now, the SB2C-5

Hopefully not, USA and SU are already 2 biggest nations with a lot of potential vehicles to add, they obviously don’t need any subtree.

We sure as hell need a late model Phantom lmao

Wdym you already got F-4J /s

I’d rather have a late model USAF variant. Either an ANG or Desert Storm-Era F-4E, or an F-4G, with AIM-7M, AIM-9L/M, and all the goodies I listed here:

also a fix to the AN/APG-120 would be nice

because currently it as an excessive amount of ground clutter

even when compared to radars found at lower BRs

despite having effective filters for clutter IRL

100%. In ACM mode, clutter should be all but nullified.
Wish we had the CAA mode separate as another ACM mode, that has even better close-range clutter rejection. Maybe in the F-4E late.

its really funny how the F-3H has better clutter rejection than the F-4E in game