Make Su-25 Great Again!

I believe it is an incredibly foolish and indefensible stance that the Su-25 has a 10.3 or 10.7 battle rating. As a result, the aircraft’s secondary weapons are severely underperforming compared to other planes, especially the A-10s, which mostly use highly accurate missiles. The issue of the plane’s sluggishness is present both in RB and Simulator battles. Since it is at a 10.3 and 10.7 BR, it is considered quite slow in these matches. Not to mention that due to the unavoidable Sparrow missiles, by the time you can reach your target, you’re already shot down.

My suggestion would be to reduce the Su-25’s BR to 9.3 in realistic battles and 9.7 in simulator battles in the next update!!!

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This game is not designed for you to enjoy game mechanics or immersive gameplay.
I proposed for years to have a separate mode for assualt planes to have a proper gameplay instead of “hit and run” as we do at the moment.
Gaijin do not know at the moment how to create interesting gameplay and motivate players to support the game.
Also, they do not know how to create hard to complete assault missions without involving fighter planes operated by players, that easily kill assaullt planes.

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The notion that Korean era warbirds should ever have to face R60M/MK’s, is, frankly, ridiculous.

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3/10 Ragebait, you can spell at least but it’s not believable for even a second

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It’s easy to label everything as ragebait, but the problem with that is that it distracts us from real issues xDDD

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Yeah…that is why we have Su-25 facing F-14/16…
Su-25 does not even have radar to search for enemies.

Su25 (The 10.3 ones OP is presumably referring to) cannot face F-14/16’s.

Alright, and?. GR7 at 12.3 has no Radar either. Should we also move this down to 9.3 based on this alone?

Su-25SM3 can.

This plane is in the team against USSR, wich is usually outnumberes at least twice!
Of course you can enjoy playing assault plane when your team easily suppresses enemy fighters.

Ideally we should have a separate gameplay for assault planes.

Sure, so long as it loses its R-60Ms and is limited to rear-aspect only IR missiles.

(I.E Sea Harrier FRS1e with Aim-9Ls at 10.7 vs Harrier Gr3 with Aim-9Gs at 9.7. Essentially the same aircraft performance)

I’m pretty sure OP is talking about the 10.3’s ones. Asking for those to be 9.3 is silly enough.

Moving SM3 down to 9.3/9.7 with R73’s would be insane.

I’d only be okay with this if R60M/R73’s were removed, and they only had rear aspect R60’s.

I know. But the idea is the same.
Some strike planes cannot compete with fighter planes at all.
When you play USSR plane, enemy team outnumbers you at least twice, which makes playing strike plane absolutely impossible.

Yeah, i notice this alot. Most the games i play in the max bracket end because all RU players leave which is sad.

So play the Su-25 in 10.3-11.3 brackets. Redfor outnumbers bluefor about 3:1 at the moment due to the lack of any competition against the Mig-23MLD. I know thats what I would do

Even in the current 10.7-11.7 matches that are active. Redfor outnumber bluefor and most bluefors will be in CAS aircraft

I do not like planes without advanced weapon and EOTS.
I am pretty sure most of the players prefer modern aircraft over old ones or early jets with simple weapon.
However, we do not have the gameplay for these planes other than “hit and run”. This is really sad.

You are entirely incapable of justifying all aspect 30G missiles facing Me-163s. It is not a position anyone who cares remotely about balance is capable of taking in good faith.

Remove R-60MKs and have it only use dumb bombs and R-3Ss, it can than go to 9.3 as an F-100 equivalent.

Its still ragebait but I’ll give you an argument incase you’re an idiot

The A10 and Su25 comparison is relatively sensible. I play frogfoots, don’t really think they warrant moving down at all. Especially not if we have to compromise on already shafted payloads.

But the A10s are definitely more effective from an air to ground viewpoint, especially on account of the different engagement distances, and personally I am of the mind they should be sent up along with a decompression pass from 9.3 up.

for the uninformed- he’s joking

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