Major Update "Spearhead" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

[StormRyder13]

I have mixed feelings on the nation thingy on one had it’s funny(and I will use it) but on the other hand it feels lazy and a way to get around sub-tree issues without fixing half the issues.

My more negative thoughts:

Subtree Rework - Nation Folders

Can’t wait for those who support ripping nations apart to hide behind it when you support a nation getting a home… not. They’re already annoying, telling you to be happy, you need to grind 7 different trees and can’t use your tech in a line-up together. This feels like a lazy way to go: “See, neither nation is above or below.” Well, not fixing the room issues, which is even more major.

MAUSWAFFE improvements:

Subtree Rework - Nation Folders

I went back and sorted the flags now [Flag_SelectionV2] Flags are sorted through a multi-tier organization system here: Techtree nations (Orange) are placed before one-off nations (Yellow) Different nations within these two categories are sorted alphabetically (e.g. Germany before Switzerland) → Iterations of a single nation (e.g. GDR or German Empire for Germany) are sorted by time period, with the most modern one at the top, and the oldest at the bottom. → Naval flags are under their…

Well thinking about it this system is likely for the Korean tree so the don’t have to pick a single flag, it dose have some uses in game, like for China or Germany, basically any nation the goes through of few name/flag changes throughout War Thunder’s time period. After that it’s more why dose this exist?

[quartas121]

@naruto24k

we dont know the dimensions of the missile.

Same form factor as the AMRAAM. 7" diameter and similar length with probably around the same weight

[MAUSWAFFE]

@Zulizia

It doesn’t make any sense why some Nation Flags are available though, like Germany can pick Kingdom of Italy because it had Italian vehicles, that you can no longer get. Feel like it just should be subtrees/

If they properly indicate what is a permanent nation in the tree (so “main” and “subtree” nations) and what is just one-off vehicles of nations not bound to that tree / already in another tree, then I think this could still work.

They also don’t seem to allow changing Britain to France at the moment despite French vehicles in the tree though, so I think they might still be working out some of these questions themselves.

[Deathmisser]

Eh whatever the official reason is I think it’s a nice change letting people pick the appropriate flag they want. Personally I’m going to have my UI as follows

Great Britain — > British Empire
USSR —> Russian Empire
Germany —> Modern day
CCP ----> ROC

and if I have a pure sub line up say Finland or South Africa ect then I’ll change the flag accordingly

[someweirdname]

wow that actually took long to get to Part 2 this major

it’s really telling that this update is currently quite lean in additions

[someweirdname]

everyone else is a Nation, Germany is The entire Modern day

all modernery is German by that comment

I like the idea

[Zulizia]

@MAUSWAFFE

They also don’t seem to allow changing Britain to France at the moment despite French vehicles in the tree though, so I think they might still be working out some of these questions themselves.

Might just be because Britain has so many available flags. I don’t think they have a scrolling feature, do they?

[Deathmisser]

Wasn’t my intent xD

[Deathmisser]

It’s the same with the Israeli stuff too so I think you just can’t change to a nation that’s already ingame

[MAUSWAFFE]

@StormRyder13

I have mixed feelings on the nation thingy on one had it’s funny(and I will use it) but on the other hand it feels lazy and a way to get around sub-tree issues without fixing half the issues.

Yeah, I also hope this doesn’t mean they want to use it as band-aid fix for subtree issues. There is a lot more to fix and a lot to improve too.

Once it’s released I’ll update the subtree rework suggestion with the feature in mind (and maybe some improvements to it if necessary)

[StormRyder13]

I think I plan on doing this, tho I might change the US to Australia once I get the AIM:

Also, because people have asked elsewhere, the two different ways you could do with Canada:

[Zulizia]

My current setup, will change Israel → Cyprus, might change Italy → Hungary

Ideally I would make USA → Turkey but thats wishful thinking (M60 is expensive)

[MAUSWAFFE]

Maybe Italy, Finland, Romania and South Africa are mistakes then. We’ll have to see if we get a devblog for it or maybe some dev server updates

At least for me Hungary wasn’t an option either, but Gszabi said he could select it before and I don’t have the Hungarian He-112 in the German tree so that could also be the reason.

[Zulizia]

@MAUSWAFFE

At least for me Hungary wasn’t an option either, but Gszabi said he could select it before and I don’t have the Hungarian He-112 in the German tree so that could also be the reason.

I couldn’t see Hungary either.
(screenshot from dev server pre-patch)

[BasherBenDawg8]

@turismo_sp33d578-psn

is it possible you can make a suggestion for the agm 142 popeye for israel?, ur good with suggestions .its realitically the only way the devs add unique stuff to israel atp.(would make it much more enjoyable to play kurnass,f15I raam)

No point really, they’re aware of the munitions existence and will add it when they want to and are ready to. I’m flattered that you think I’m good at making suggestions, but the ones I’ve made are limited to vehicle at the moment, not weapons.

[YaSen]

Kingdom of Italy in place of German flag is rather odd too.

[Smugspite]

anything been found in the files?

[Danzig_A11]

I would like to play around with the new vehicles somewhat but its really cool that we are forced to play on a horrible rework of one of the worst maps in game in top tier vehicles in the dev server.

[Morvran]

Its a shame you need to ahve something unlocked to change the flag to it.

I’d change the US flag to the Canadian Flag instantly. South Canada needs the right flag :P

[Deathmisser]

Yeah the limiter is kinda weird as I have to buy a 4,000 GE boat that I’m never going to use just because I want to change the name of the tree at least the host nation should get theirs for free. But at least the WW1 stuff now is a lot more worth it since there some hidden names you can get so there that