Just saying that it doesnt really matter since it still comes to the same place - updated Soviet designs, whatever big arms exporters exporting and local attempts to make something unique (which is mostly IFVs, for some reasons… seriously, why everyone trying to make one at some point?)
Countries make their own IFV’s because they can? Whats the point of buying something from another country if you can make something better?
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money. independence. factorys.
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I don’t want to cause an argument or anything, but could you explain to me why you find that a Central-Eastern European tech tree is the best option? Because people are always talking about this but it never makes mcuh sense to me
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well we have all that thankfully
They both are scanning out to 400km though. They are likely just in different scan sector modes in this image. The N011M has a scanning sector of ±70 degrees in azimuth and ±45 degrees in elevation. The elevation angle is not visible in the second picture, however all other parameters are. So this cannot be used as evidence that one is using the N011M, and the other isn’t.
Source: Aerospace Systems Export catalogue – Rosoboronexport – 2005
https://web.archive.org/web/20061203044551/http://www.rusarm.ru/cataloque/airf0rces_cataloque.html
(This is only the contents, you need to download the full version from random websites which I don’t feel comfortable linking)
Not just independence, but actual security. Sanctions can’t break your army supply if you produce arms in your country.
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Depends on whether your country has access to the raw materials needed.
well where are gonna get the resource ? buy them. sanction will be put on the country that sold you the resource, now no one want to sell you.
of course there is china but lets put it a side
Random question, what exactly besides the engines does the SM2 overhaul/upgrade over the base SM? So i know what to be excited for besides not being a turtle anymore
A reason why South Africa made a fair few as a good example ;)
(also making an IFV/armoured car is massively less costly both in production material and CAD/factory tooling so if it fails it isnt like you put too much into it and what you did… you can put into other projects such as civilian heavy movers)
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Resources are generally easier to embargo break vs buying a tank though. Plenty of greedy companies out there willing to ignore rules if a big enough $$$ is put down.
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My guess is the varying perception of what is copy paste. That or unaware of the 5 line limit/what each country can offer.
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but are you sure you wanna spend the 1.5x or 2x the price for resource
Thanks a lot for the answers, really helpful
Still massively cheaper then buying the tank lol. And if your project fails you can still use the resources for other projects.
Like, a French Merc with a bunch of experience bought 2 strikemasters to try to get them to an embargo nation and they got clocked pretty much immediately but got very, very lucky getting them out of Malta.
Moving a war machine is way harder to do, yet alone multiple vs a boat full of raw materials.
ya, IFV/APC/Armoured cars are much cheaper to make than most other military vehicles. It’s why many nations have domestic production of them. Stuff like MBT/Aircraft aren’t as commonly built do to said cost, nations might have at one point been able to make these, but things happen, and it’s not worth the cost anymore.
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no problem
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Well things like modern ATGMs, MADPADs and SAMs make aircraft and tanks look so much more expensive for the capability they provide. They still absolutely provide capability, just that you’re really paying for it compared to other very capable systems. Drones especially are making aircraft less appealing unless you’re dropping large amounts of ordinance.
should i pre-order the BMT-72?