Major Update "Line of Contact" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Fox-3 was quite a major update and that was the June update. So you never know

nah, december 2026 will be 5th gen. BVVD said EW and more advanced 4+ gen before 5th gen

ground maps vary with airfield locations, Just look at Alaska, the airfield is about 15,000 metres away from the combat zone, the BUK can instnatly shoot at aircraft and you can see it in some videos. ORBIX did one and we had to actively take off from the runway towards the crew quatres to avoid being shot down on take off

I think this is a characteristic of different missiles. For example, the PL-5E2 has an extremely fast acceleration, which is an excellent balance. Different missiles have their own unique features and will not be overly powerful.

“Buk” lol. The worst AA in the game. Just use terrain and you have already defeated the missile.

cannot be flared is an understatement, the flared IRIS-T SL you’re talking about is either not flared at all but defeated by dodging the datalink, or preflaring because the way the IIR is modelled ingame is dual IRCCM: FOV Clamp + Seeker Shutoff. so it’s not properly modelled which significantly increases chances of it being flared very easily. if gaijin were to properly add IIR seekers you literally cannot flare them, if you do you’re god’s 1 in 10000000 chosen person

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Thats what he is referencing.

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again, you’re fine with china and russia having great IRCCM and manuverability, but all other nations are stuck with a subpar aim-9m that cant turn and has no energy.

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hmmm ?wonder who else does that.

first of all, untrue. the PL-5EII is comparable to the Magic 2, and the 9M has more energy than said missiles.

yeah, but currently ingame they would not be OP at all in air, just balanced to have counterparts to the dominating magical r-73 that turns like a MICA while having IRCCM. Also imagine seekers cant be added to a game realistically, its just a limitation of games as a whole.

Good evening @Smin1080p_WT , sorry to bother, are there any top tier jets planned to receive a detailed X-ray model in this update, like the A-10/Su-25/F-18 did?

It is entirely dependent on whether they plan on improving the seekers or not, they might plan to overhaul them and the current implementation is just a placeholder/prototype. Balancing them on SAMs first is a good solution.

They rarely do when ground launched. CAMM for example tops out at about Mach 3 and has around 15km range. ASRAAM, the same missile for all intent and purposes. Tops out at Mach 5+ and has 30-40+km range. They are very very different when air launched.

I would concur, Aim-9M on the Typhoon vs Magic II and MICA EM (Near identical kinematically to the MICA IR) on the Rafale is an extremely unfair fight. But it does need to be done properly. I think starting with decent radars for everyone is a smart choice. But I think before we see wide spread deployment of Gen 5 IIR missiles, they need to overhaul IR signatures and CMs. Probably multipathing too.

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currently how it is, it’s still really really hard to flare to the point where if you see it launched at you there’s not much you can do. with the amount of countermeasures the average plane in war thunder has, it’s impossible to flare it or try preflaring it.

Lol, a gripen for example has 1000+ flares, just spam and turn away from the missile.

okay, are we forgetting about all the flankers? the rafale? the mirage? what about the J-10s?

You are right that it doesn’t specify either MKI (Flanker-H) or MKK (Flanker-G) series of aircraft, so maybe it does mean it can be integrated on both series?

So by that, if that is how this should be interpreted, what Gaijin did follows the internal rules of the game, since the weapons are said to be compatible and the only issue might be the Kh-38MT(E)s existence itself being a bit questionable.

Does anyone here know why i’m not able to fire both BMPT cannons at once, and why they dont have apfsds like the bmp2m that has the same 30mm

Most of htose are BOL. BOL Should be highly effective against IIR Missile as it was designed to counter them, but the in-game implementation… makes them extremely useless. Also its not a 1000+