Major Update "Line of Contact" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

i would agree the AIM-9M in terms of pull is very bad, but the range is very good. but i strongly agree that surface launched missiles have to go upwards only, and they start with 0 energy, so they run out very quickly

womp womp, when it comes to russia being op its ok, but the west cant be good, no no no nerf it to the ground for “balancing reasons”

first time, its always been like that, its a Russian game, just enjoy it for what it is lol

Learn to accept it :)

I’m extremely confused about these people wanting to not let the game evolve and naturally add the current generation of ir missiles. The aim-9x is 25 years old ffs

im pretty sure continuing an argument with someone who doesn’t know the implications of IIR and next gen IRs is stupid to begin with, im just going to stop trying at this point…

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if everyone gets them it’s fair. simple as that

the thing is NOBODY should get them, you don’t understand they all have crazy pull, crazy range, crazy kinematics and no chance of flaring. now bye

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no

we dont even have bigger maps to have a good fox3 game.
we are playing 130km missile in a 50km maps.

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Ahhh i see, lets not add new things and let the game stay where it is now. I’ts perfectly balanced right? (Laugs in mica, r-73, kh-38)

If only Gaijobless moved the spawns to the furthest parts of the map, like from an angle to another…

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I would agree with the “range vs maneuverability” argument if Aim-9M had

  1. Their IRL lock ranges, (rear-aspect range) currently they are a C&P of the Aim-9L and significantly too short
  2. Their IRL tracking rate, which would improve their ability to track fast moving targets
  3. All-aspect IRCCM, currently seeker shut off does not work, at all. In front aspect.
  4. Better IRCCM, the seeker shutoff doesnt work all that well except in carefully set up side aspect shots. Push ahead for example would be a meaningful buff
  5. They had their IRL overload, Should be 35Gs, it is not.

All 5 of these issues have been reported and accepted. some more than 3 years ago now.

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r73 ?

yeah just forget it bro, they dont care. They let the r-73 and kh-38 dominate, but when we suggest adding similar counterparts to the US and EU, they instantly deny it claiming it will break the game. Its such a double standard having broken BRICS weapons but no good NATO weapons.

yeah, just look at the stats. The r-73 is a superior missile to the aim-9m BY FAR.
Insanely better pull, better IRCCM and way better energy (Δv)

Have you ever used the r73? Imo the irccm on 9m is better, until sub 1km range

have You ever played top tier? You compare mid-range smokeless missile vs closerange dogfight missile? are You trolling?

well the facts say otherwise:

… they use different types of irccm. That’s what I was referring to.
R73 clams seeker down to .75 while 9m uses seeker shut off.
And imo seeker shutoff is better than fov gating until sub 1km

Depends entirely on aspect

Anything on the 9M220 ATGM for the BMPT?
Or should a report be made