Major Update "Line of Contact" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

its certainly no XM800T but nothing is so i understand the sentiment.

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80rpm can feel slow moving over from an automatic canon but its consistent and wont overheat.

ive hardly ever had shell shatter from its apds either, maybe 0.5% of all my shots have been shatters.

lack of post pen is flat out wrong its one of the few non APHE shells that actually has any post pen damage to it. its spall frequency outperforms most shells up to 57mm

my fox is positive and so is my scimitar. ive gotten my scimitar up from 0.2 to above one in the last 3 months as my bug report fixes have come into place. If assists were also shown you would see one hell of a different figure.

not a fan of the warrior so dont really play it.

claiming its bad just shows you dont play it much at all.

It IS slow
Glacially so
Overheating is usually not a concern on autocannons at this br unless your’e emptying your entire ammo load at a target you can’t pen. As for the RARDEN, it is indeed not a concern because you will take return fire before you even get to a quarter of the overheat circle

Indeed, because Gaijin specifically did not nerf this APDS in the “murder low-caliber APDS” balance update. Yet it is still bad, especially when combined to the firerate

226 games with the Fox, 206 death, 291 kills
67 games in the Scimitar, 40 death, 52 kills
I have indeed not played those vehicles as much as you did yet i somehow perform better than you in them
Make of that what you will

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was it still at 6.7? or now at 8.0?

this is impressive for a pre fixes scimitar from prior to 6 months ago.

youre a BMP2m player. your bar for good scout vehicles is skewed so digustingly that most decent ones are going to feel terrible.

Played it when it was at 7.7 iirc
The first game i had with it was in the second half of March 2025
nvm, that’s the date limit in Statshark
I had 64 games with it as of March 2025, 103 deaths to 138 kills
I’m pretty sure i got it right after the nerf in June 2024, i remember yelling about how gaijin nerfs every vehicle i want to play just before i get them in a discord lol

Haven’t really played the BMP-2M in at least one year, maybe 2

That doesn’t make my points about the RARDEN invalid, though

If I’m going to sit at range instead of doing CQB, the larger guns and ATGMs are the better options by default

If I’m flanking or playing as a rat, sure, the RARDEN works (not nearly as well as most other autocannons though), but a regular gun works as well

Unless you absolutely need the higher (but still pretty slow) rate of fire, a regular gun is more versatile than the RARDEN as it doesn’t require specific targets to work (no need to specifically look for light vehicles or tanks with exposed sides)

I always enjoy seeing light vehicles with autocannon + ATGM combos for that reason, the ATGM can offset the autocannons lack of penetration power while the autocannon provides a higher rate of fire to deal with multiple less armoured targets

Is calling the RARDEN useless an exaggeration?
Yes.
Would another RARDEN vehicle without ATGMs be useful to have?
Not really.

Speaking of ATGM’s, can we talk about how the US doesn’t have a single missile carrier in the TT, and how a stupid easy fix for this is the TOW HMMWV? Or even the jeep with TOW? Maybe even some LAV’s such as LAV-AT, LAV-ATM?

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I was hoping for HQ-16 personally. Maybe that can still be added this update or at least in the next one.

HQ-11 can also come with a separate gun system. It could be very interesting to see this added through multi-vehicle mechanics.

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This will never come. If we don’t get an effective AA this time, the next AA will have to wait a long time. When the time comes, the new precision long-range ammunition will make China suffer even more.

watch gaijin adding a patriot to CCP china

Hopefully they add gripen e to dev tmr, can’t wait to try it out.
Hopefully it also gets derbies

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Speaking of Derby, my friend lamented that Sufa didn’t have Derby and quit the game
I also have a friend who’s pissed off that there’s no Gripen E.

That’s a fair reaction honestly since who doesn’t want to use their indigenous missile. Though, after using the r darters that are on the gripen (which from what I understand are an export derby for South Africa? @BasherBenDawg8 can you confirm this?) i honestly think they are barely better for AMRAAMs for close range, and are much worse than the amraam for anything past 10 km, so imo he’s not missing out much.
At least gripen e is I think confirmed to come later on in the dev server

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I’d be happy if they get rewarded—they’re both important friends to me
Oh, and this is just my personal request, but I’m really looking forward to the F-14D being implemented.

Honestly that plane is going to be so doa by the time it comes I’m not looking forward to grinding it. It should’ve came out long before eurofighter or rafale

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Oh, what a tragic fate indeed.

Pretty much right, it’s basically the base Derby IRL and ingame it’s identical iirc. However with the derby’s sometimes missing as of this summer, and their drag/range being so poor, its lack of Derby’s really hampers it

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Would you look at that ;) I don’t know but I’ve been told, the EBR is Hella COLD!
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By their own logic, they could add the NASAMS 3 to prc aswell as us and sweden

@Smin1080p_WT when we can see Su-30MKK bcs its in changlog but not in dev

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So the real question is, which tree do we think eats the best this update so far?

Gotta be between Japan, China, US, Russia and the UK trees right?