Major Update "Line of Contact" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Skill issue lmao

Everything I have ever read says they’re recycled Fox turrets with minor modifications to bring them to the same standards as Scimitar, e.g. new domed turret hatches, modernised driver’s controls, additional crew stowage, etc. The whole point was to replace the Foxes which kept rolling over.

That’s cause they replaced the Co-axial mg with a L94 chain gun, as seen on Warrior and the Challengers. Why not the whole fleet I don’t know.

if it still doesn’t have a stabiliser its gonna be so agonizing to play even if they give it APFSDS

yeah I hope its the Aussie Boxer CRV it would finally give the UK a FnF ATGM on the ground (even if spike isnt great)

Hq11’s performance is disappointing, not split air defense, ammunition is also very little, can give such air defense two ammunition boxes?

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Did they get him?

@Smin1080p_WT hello. this is getting tiring am gonna ask for the fourth time if israel is going to recive any new high performance top tier jet with an AESA radar. can we know pls, because if this isn´t happening then just add the Python-4 to all the israeli jets that should have it.

absolutley not.

the “improved drivetrain” wont really do much, its an extra 40 horsepower but youre carrying a couple extra tons of cope cages and mine protection negating the performance boost.

the only normal improvement is ASPIRE and ESPIRE which would be a laser rangefinder and thermals, these improvements cant raise it above 8.3 as warrior has gen 2 thermals, laser rangefinder, better armour for not much worse mobility and a MILAN 2 missile.

a LEP and mk2 scimitar realistically would only be on par with that option with a dart as they dont get an ATGM solution to thicker armour head on.

the only time a rarden has been op in the years ive been playign was when fox was 6.7, and that was only from the skill gap between british players and the 6.7 german masses.

khorne mate im sorry to break this to you but this is a genuine skill issue. the RARDEN is a consistent and reliable gun with good damage, penetration and handling. if you cant get a RARDEN to work for you then I cant see any light vehicle working for you

WT has no light vehicles with ATGMs or larger guns, I guess

tbf, the RARDEN is a lot less forgiving than the guns mounted on other light tanks and IFVs
It has a glacial rate of fire and your best shell is a low-caliber APDS, which does low-caliber APDS things, ie randomly shattering on plates that aren’t perfectly 90° to it and having minimal post-pen fragmentation

youre trading one big chunk of damage for more shots downrange.

its not like rarden cant oneshot across a map on a light target either. the amount of times ive smacked leopards from getting on for 1500m in the side is plenty.

ATGMs ive never got to work as anything more than a close range shotgun because peeking out for a snipe is often too risky

Buddy
You’re talking like the RARDEN is a gun forged by god himself but you somehow can’t even get a positive K/D inthe Warrior or the Scimitar and you’re barely positive in the Fox

I’m not throwing shade, we all have vehicles we click with and vehicles we don’t
But denying the RARDEN is at best a mid gun that has a lot of issues is straight-up huffing copium

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its certainly no XM800T but nothing is so i understand the sentiment.

??!!

80rpm can feel slow moving over from an automatic canon but its consistent and wont overheat.

ive hardly ever had shell shatter from its apds either, maybe 0.5% of all my shots have been shatters.

lack of post pen is flat out wrong its one of the few non APHE shells that actually has any post pen damage to it. its spall frequency outperforms most shells up to 57mm

my fox is positive and so is my scimitar. ive gotten my scimitar up from 0.2 to above one in the last 3 months as my bug report fixes have come into place. If assists were also shown you would see one hell of a different figure.

not a fan of the warrior so dont really play it.

claiming its bad just shows you dont play it much at all.

It IS slow
Glacially so
Overheating is usually not a concern on autocannons at this br unless your’e emptying your entire ammo load at a target you can’t pen. As for the RARDEN, it is indeed not a concern because you will take return fire before you even get to a quarter of the overheat circle

Indeed, because Gaijin specifically did not nerf this APDS in the “murder low-caliber APDS” balance update. Yet it is still bad, especially when combined to the firerate

226 games with the Fox, 206 death, 291 kills
67 games in the Scimitar, 40 death, 52 kills
I have indeed not played those vehicles as much as you did yet i somehow perform better than you in them
Make of that what you will

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was it still at 6.7? or now at 8.0?

this is impressive for a pre fixes scimitar from prior to 6 months ago.

youre a BMP2m player. your bar for good scout vehicles is skewed so digustingly that most decent ones are going to feel terrible.

Played it when it was at 7.7 iirc
The first game i had with it was in the second half of March 2025
nvm, that’s the date limit in Statshark
I had 64 games with it as of March 2025, 103 deaths to 138 kills
I’m pretty sure i got it right after the nerf in June 2024, i remember yelling about how gaijin nerfs every vehicle i want to play just before i get them in a discord lol

Haven’t really played the BMP-2M in at least one year, maybe 2

That doesn’t make my points about the RARDEN invalid, though

If I’m going to sit at range instead of doing CQB, the larger guns and ATGMs are the better options by default

If I’m flanking or playing as a rat, sure, the RARDEN works (not nearly as well as most other autocannons though), but a regular gun works as well

Unless you absolutely need the higher (but still pretty slow) rate of fire, a regular gun is more versatile than the RARDEN as it doesn’t require specific targets to work (no need to specifically look for light vehicles or tanks with exposed sides)

I always enjoy seeing light vehicles with autocannon + ATGM combos for that reason, the ATGM can offset the autocannons lack of penetration power while the autocannon provides a higher rate of fire to deal with multiple less armoured targets

Is calling the RARDEN useless an exaggeration?
Yes.
Would another RARDEN vehicle without ATGMs be useful to have?
Not really.

Speaking of ATGM’s, can we talk about how the US doesn’t have a single missile carrier in the TT, and how a stupid easy fix for this is the TOW HMMWV? Or even the jeep with TOW? Maybe even some LAV’s such as LAV-AT, LAV-ATM?

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I was hoping for HQ-16 personally. Maybe that can still be added this update or at least in the next one.

HQ-11 can also come with a separate gun system. It could be very interesting to see this added through multi-vehicle mechanics.

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This will never come. If we don’t get an effective AA this time, the next AA will have to wait a long time. When the time comes, the new precision long-range ammunition will make China suffer even more.