Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

nah, you miss nothing. Usually they drop news post in evening that in morning there will be maintenance, and then after maintenance update comes. Thats it. So when you wake up, there will be update


Yes

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Very understandable now

Smin, can you say how close we are?
Should we have some popcorn for the next hours?

White star go brrrrrrrrrrrr

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You’d be surprised at how much the new FBW helps the advanced eagles (SA, QA, EX). They don’t say it outright but I think it’s lighter than the E bc of newer construction and the GE engines do perform slightly better.

Also so far cleared max is 12 AMRAAMs

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Oh I don’t doubt the EX is lighter than the E but the C is much lighter compared to the E and EX

The greatly improved flight control systems do improve the manueverability a lot. From what F-15C pilots who switched to EX said as far as flight performance, it sounds like it performs like a faster F-15C

which dosent matter in war thunder tho

because we dont get moddeled FCS systems

so the F-15EX probably will not be more manuverable

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Maybe not more manueverable than a C in-game but it should at least match it

it wont as long as it is heavier

White Star Line*

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Either way I take on a voyage on any White Star line ships than see an F-22 lol

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We really need that modeled. Most planes are overperforming like crazy because they don’t have their 9G limiter and AoA limiters (Looking at you F-16s and EFT/Rafale).

The 9G on Rafale and EFT has nothing to do with actual limits; 9G is a common “peace time” limit to prevent from unecessary overstress of the Airframes.

Reports confirm that both planes are capable of much more than 9G and high AoA, with the EFT still underperforming atm as per reports.

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it isnt a G-limiter but AoA limiter instead

so you can technically pull 12Gs as long as you dont exceed the AoA limit of ~25° (for most of the unstable airframes)

Um no? In their fly-by-wire systems, they’re limited to 9G. It’s not like early 4th gens where the higher ups say “oh, you can’t pull more than 6.5 to preserve the aircraft’s lifespan” (and then the pilots do it anyway, and the plane is fine)
They’re limited to 9G for safety, structural reasons, and on top of that, unnecessary overstress. FBW overrides their command there.

Even during wartime, I doubt they’d be able to sustain more than 11-12G realistically before rapid midair disassembly. It’s also just not good for the pilot. If we want the game to be realistic, that’s just how it has to be. It won’t matter for dogfighting as much though. It’ll just mean people have to be mindful of how they merge.

I’d like to see those. And the G has to be sustained. Any planes can pull 15G for 0.2 seconds and be fine.
Specifically because the Eurofighter is rated for 9G sustained in wartime config with a distinct 24 degree limit on the AoA. I’ve heard the EFT can pull 10-11G for short bursts in “emergencies” which means it can’t and shouldn’t sustain it…

BothAgreeGIF

there is a difference tho in how they affect the flight performance

red line would be an AoA limit
green line a G-Limit

important to note:
you rate can be higher than you AoA
20° STR =/= 20° AoA
but your rate cannot exceed the G-Limiter

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Raptor is not AoA limited and I’m not sure if F-35 is unstable but if it is it can pull a lot of AoA