source?
i heard it was a SAM site
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There its not newer one. THAT its the one they fake out Fighter_Bomber telegram.
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They move a SAM near the border and ambush the Su-35s.
Alright that’s a different thing then. Yes, the J-20 was made using tech the Chinese acquired, but that’s true for basically anything. The whole world is using stealth theory coming straight from american research, but no one claims that the Rafale or Eurofighter are copied from American aircrafts because of their stealth. Yes, the J-20 uses a wing configuration coming from some Russian aircrafts, but that doesn’t make it a copy because every plane takes a bit from others, both predecessors and foreign designs. As much as chinese love to copy foreign development, I think we should stop calling everything from China “copy” for the sake of it
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regardless of whether it was a SAM or F-16 it still compares badly to say, F-15’s and F-35’s recently that walk all over modern air defence networks
technically it comes from a soviet reseach paper
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it matteres tho dosent it?
there is a difference between a jet getting shot down by a 40 year old f-16 or a patriot
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True but you get the idea
then they should stop giving reasons, i mean i doubt either of us would be able to tell the difference between this
and this
if they had the same livery
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it is easy just look at the roundels
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damn you, that wasnt there when i sent my message
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Look man, I know the copies, I actually might even know more of them than you, but when once every blue moon they make a unique design, we should call it copy too
the F-15 is just a complet copy of the Mig-25 as well
trust
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when was that paper published? if you have the day it would be nice
1962
Tbh that’s more plausible than the J-20 being a copy of the F-22 since the US actually got a Mig-25 prototype
Lmao
A-12 which had RCS reduction measures flew that same year, and couple years before that there was the Convair kingfish proposal which specfically was made to have reduced RCS, but lost out because the A-12 was faster
so no, US stealth and Lockheed experience with RCS reduction doesnt come from some Soviet paper
belenko defection was 1976 4 years after the F-15A first flight
I know, just kidding
But what if americans time traveled?
I bet they time traveled to steal russian inventions
And they did the same for all stuff Chinese were gonna invent in the future
dont think the PLAAF would even have J-8’s if we could
yes it does
they wouldnt have been able to make the RCS simulations for the F-117 without it
they already knew how to do RCS reduction and did extensive radar testing on spy planes, unless the paper was cited in a Lockheed one for the F-117 RCS simulations i dont believe it
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A-12 radar testing