Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

They should just model all 5th gens with the same exact RCS to avoid issues, since they’re not going to be accurate anyways.

It’s a game not real life

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b-but then they cant sell OP variants of them tho :(((((

honestly, its hard to say

its trm count is a bit low, 1500~ trm which might struggle, yes TRM isnt everything but you cant stress your trm to output a lot of power in comparision to that

But again, that was with a extremely old prototypes, its been like 15 years for that, or around 10 years till it came into service. much couldve changed

And with su-57m1, a newer radar suite is coming

L band would be TOO OP if gaijin models it correctly (they wont, seeing current state of flanker fms)

to be brutally honest, idc what rcs it gets, it should atleast have the best fm.

whats so special about it? it can see stealth from farther but worse quality track.

which doesnt matter because all you gotta do is help the missile go into the general direction of the target acquire it with its own radar

wouldnt a worse quality track make it easier to use countermeasures against it and easier to jam should we get ECM?

anyways how trustworthy even is stealthflanker? look at real world combat and its clear what fighters are on top

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is what they’re going with

Personally I hope we get at least a bit of variation to the point where there’s representation for some of the late 4th gen aircraft with limited RCS reduction.

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the f-22 which shoot down a ballon?

yeah, like difference between F-35 and F-22 and other things

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the F-35 which dismantles modern air defence networks? the cold war vintage F-16’s that shot down Su-35? the Su-57 which has not gained air superiority?

Oh yeah the delta-canard, stabless aircraft is clearly a copy of the diamond-wing, classical tail aircraft!

they just swapped the position of the stabs and wings fr

I know. Maybe its because is old. But that also applied to other aircraft.

But in one of his simulations Bielka has the same range as IRBIS. You can see how IRBIS compare to other USA radars. in this simulations of a Missile AESA seeker.

Meh, I can get that they think the J-35 is a copy and stuff because it really looks like a F-35, but in this case you can’t just claim its a copy. Just, look objectively at the F-22 and then look at the J-20. The only thing they have in common are stealth, and everything required for stealth. DSIs are also on the J-10, diamond wing is a basic of stealth, canted tails are a basic of stealth, missile bays too, etc etc. And you can’t really find any other true common point without a lot of imagination. So no, saying the J-20 is copied from the F-22 isn’t fair
They did a true effort in designing a unique aircraft tailored for their needs

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maybe the airframe was independent but at least some of the tech on it is stolen. i mean, look at the Z-20 and KJ600 (E-2 in PLAN livery lol), and apparently they inspected and took parts of the downed F-117 in Serbia

  • They copypasted others aircrafts
  • They used tech from a heavily outdated stealth aircraft to develop their aircraft

Conclusion: they stole F-22 stuff to make their aircraft
What?
I can imagine they stole stuff but you’ll have to back it up better

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never said F-22 specifally, but stuff like downed F-117 and maybe inspected general stealth features from the raptor probably contributed a lot to the J-20

I meant more like Rafale, EFT, F-2 and so on. Maybe another lower modifier for aircraft like on F-16C that also have some RCS reduction (but even more limited).

But as nice as individual RCS for every aircraft, I also don’t think it will happen. My guess is we’ll have a set of non-stealth (current) and stealth RCS modifiers. Even having a separate low visibility set for late gen 4s seems a bit like wishful thinking.


Also if I understand the current RCS modifier system right, this system would make the F-35 the most stealthy due to being the smallest stealth fighter. Unless they add the X/F-32 that is.

You fell for Ghost of Kiev.

Spoiler

They even Fake Fighter_bomber to make it look real.

much more recent than that