Oh yeah the delta-canard, stabless aircraft is clearly a copy of the diamond-wing, classical tail aircraft!
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they just swapped the position of the stabs and wings fr
I know. Maybe its because is old. But that also applied to other aircraft.
But in one of his simulations Bielka has the same range as IRBIS. You can see how IRBIS compare to other USA radars. in this simulations of a Missile AESA seeker.
Meh, I can get that they think the J-35 is a copy and stuff because it really looks like a F-35, but in this case you can’t just claim its a copy. Just, look objectively at the F-22 and then look at the J-20. The only thing they have in common are stealth, and everything required for stealth. DSIs are also on the J-10, diamond wing is a basic of stealth, canted tails are a basic of stealth, missile bays too, etc etc. And you can’t really find any other true common point without a lot of imagination. So no, saying the J-20 is copied from the F-22 isn’t fair
They did a true effort in designing a unique aircraft tailored for their needs
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maybe the airframe was independent but at least some of the tech on it is stolen. i mean, look at the Z-20 and KJ600 (E-2 in PLAN livery lol), and apparently they inspected and took parts of the downed F-117 in Serbia
- They copypasted others aircrafts
- They used tech from a heavily outdated stealth aircraft to develop their aircraft
Conclusion: they stole F-22 stuff to make their aircraft
What?
I can imagine they stole stuff but you’ll have to back it up better
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never said F-22 specifally, but stuff like downed F-117 and maybe inspected general stealth features from the raptor probably contributed a lot to the J-20
I meant more like Rafale, EFT, F-2 and so on. Maybe another lower modifier for aircraft like on F-16C that also have some RCS reduction (but even more limited).
But as nice as individual RCS for every aircraft, I also don’t think it will happen. My guess is we’ll have a set of non-stealth (current) and stealth RCS modifiers. Even having a separate low visibility set for late gen 4s seems a bit like wishful thinking.
Also if I understand the current RCS modifier system right, this system would make the F-35 the most stealthy due to being the smallest stealth fighter. Unless they add the X/F-32 that is.
You fell for Ghost of Kiev.
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They even Fake Fighter_bomber to make it look real.
much more recent than that
source?
i heard it was a SAM site
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There its not newer one. THAT its the one they fake out Fighter_Bomber telegram.
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They move a SAM near the border and ambush the Su-35s.
Alright that’s a different thing then. Yes, the J-20 was made using tech the Chinese acquired, but that’s true for basically anything. The whole world is using stealth theory coming straight from american research, but no one claims that the Rafale or Eurofighter are copied from American aircrafts because of their stealth. Yes, the J-20 uses a wing configuration coming from some Russian aircrafts, but that doesn’t make it a copy because every plane takes a bit from others, both predecessors and foreign designs. As much as chinese love to copy foreign development, I think we should stop calling everything from China “copy” for the sake of it
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regardless of whether it was a SAM or F-16 it still compares badly to say, F-15’s and F-35’s recently that walk all over modern air defence networks
technically it comes from a soviet reseach paper
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it matteres tho dosent it?
there is a difference between a jet getting shot down by a 40 year old f-16 or a patriot
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True but you get the idea
then they should stop giving reasons, i mean i doubt either of us would be able to tell the difference between this
and this
if they had the same livery
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it is easy just look at the roundels
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damn you, that wasnt there when i sent my message
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Look man, I know the copies, I actually might even know more of them than you, but when once every blue moon they make a unique design, we should call it copy too