Do we usually get update on Tuesday morning or evening?
It depends on where you live or who you ask :)
In Argentina they are in the morning. Always
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im just waiting for gaijin to make the Su57 more stealthy then literally every other 5th gen when even in the more up to date graphs you showed it still has worse RCS then pretty much everything, also concerned about gaijin making the IRCCM work like that on the Mi-28NM and make it immune to IR missiles
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it’s estimates show it’s new RCS isn’t all that bad.
Or they could fulcrum the flight model
First I don’t know if that graph has Honeycomb structure. Second i won’t mind if they make the Su-57 a little worst RCS than the F-35s. But by Stealth flanker simulations Bielka will be the Best radar in game. Maybe until F-35 Block4 get it AN/APG-85 upgrade… Also there is enough info to fight for L-band Radar. Yea radars. Making the Su-57 better at detecting other low RCS aircraft.
And to end the performance. That thing has being describe to be better than Su-35s. Better climb, Better Acceleration, Turn rate… And Su-35s its almost equal to Eurofighter and Rafale in game. There is not way for gaijin to nerf the UFOness of that thing. Like they did with the boat Su-30sm.
hello, some vehicle with autoloader but loading process using manual reload sound effects like VT-5 and Rooikat MTTD. players point out that problem in Community Bug Reporting System but no stuff reply that.hope gaijin can notice this problem to change those to autoloading sound effects.
120 mm Rh120-44 (Leopard 2 PL): DM 43 APFSDS: drag coefficient: 0.55 → 0.611
Is this a nerf or a buff?
If the drag coefficient increases, does that mean speed drops faster after penetration?
It should mean it loses speed and energy faster while in flight. It’s energy and speed right out of the barrel should be about the same, and you won’t really notice a difference except at long distances.
I mean yes, its muzzle velocity doesn’t change. What I think changes is its velocity after penetration. It loses speed faster, so it does less internal damage. Thats what I want to confirm, if anyone can help me with this.
It should relate to penetration all too much, drag will relate to it losing energy in the air, as that’s what drag is. The damage values done post pen will remain the same, as they’re in the files and would have been datamines if so I believe. What changes is how fast it loses speed in the air, its time to target, and the amount of energy it will have when it reaches the target. Everything after that is pretty much unrelated to this stat.
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In short, they further weakened a tank whose firepower was already underwhelming.
Id not consider a Leopard 2 in any way “weak” at the moment
dont forget the Su-27 and Mig-29
if we want to get the su-30 fm changed we need to get the Su-27 fm changed, which is a way more reasonable task
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Based on what the datamines read, it’s actually better at close ranges now, but the capabilities of the round fall of a bit faster than it used to at long ranges. A tradeoff if you will, and given the close engagements in War Thunder, it’s really a buff.
(Wait I may be misreading this, did it have improved KE pen like DM33 105?)
2 questions:
- Are the issues with the Flanker fm the lift and the Oswald factor (?) or more than that?
- Are there bug reports open/closed on them? (this is mainly because I’m new to flankers, haven’t followed the bug reporting history)
I get that everything looks strong if you compare it to the Challenger (I can smell you from a mile away, lol)
But compared to the 2A5, the 2PL just doesnt fit. Its armor isnt as strong as the 2A5, it has a huge weak spot on the turret, and it doesnt even have spall liners. Its APFSDS is much weaker than the 2A5, in fact, its generally pretty weak for its BR. The 2A4M has KE-W.
BR 11.7 always gets dragged into a top tier thats usually very broken. The solution? Many of us have been asking for a while to give the 2PL the DM53 and move it up to 12.0. Anyway, it always plays at 12.0, its only alignment at 11.7 is if you buy the canadian Leopard.
I dont have that data
gszabi only mentions changes to the drag coefficient.
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from my understanding that is correct, but reporting the oswald factor dosent work bc that is a datamined value and gaijin dosent accept that
the missing lift is really apperent when you are comparing the WT Su-30 with an airshow
( the ingame Su-30 isnt able to perform some of the manouvers even if it were at 30 seconds of fuel)
it boils down to the flanker missing lift at slow speeds/ high aoa, but it is overperforming in sustained turn rate at higher speeds
i think ppl have just given up because gaijin was dismissing the Su-27SK manual before
these are reports i could find
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uzOvflrZg7em
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/U209JJp8UNJs
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Damn, first report isn’t even labelled