48 countermeasures and weighs about as much as a collapsed sun? No thanks. Looks fabulous tho
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I think the other interesting factor will be if we’ll see 9X and other advanced AAMs because dogfighting gets a whole lot simpler when those missiles are involved
I live for this timeline.
Realistically implemented paper vehicles and assorted prototypes/crackpipe dreams/feverdreams are genuinely the only way this game will be able to go forward.
BAE Tempest please.
the F-15I has 360 countermeasures which is more than the US F-15E it also has slightly less drag because of the engine turkey feathers
I have no idea, but the point still stands that I dont think the F-22 would win just because it was american.
Typhoon and Rafale more than likely can go toe to toe with an F-22 in a WVR fight. Especially when you factor in that top tier isnt about guns but about missiles. Aim-9X is already going to be one of the weakest Gen 5 IRs and assunming the Typhoon can lock an ASRAAM or a Rafale can lock a MICA IR just fine, the F-22 wont even get into IR missile range, let alone gun range.
And vs the Gripen E or Typhoon with IRIS-T. You dont even need to have your nose on the target to win the fight.
The tricky bit is the stealth modeling. If it prevent anyone from using any ARH missile then it will be broken OP and if it does nothing. The compalining will be endless (well, will be if an F-22 is killed by any ARH missile)
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I cant agree that a 120 CM difference makes the F-15E worse than the F-15I. Eespecially because the F-15E has 240!!
F-15E is the best f-15 and it just doesnt need BOL
I feel as if slightly less drag is a minor point…
I’m personally really looking forward to the YF-23 that Northrop Grumman keeps trying to sell to Japan.
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I just think F-22 is gonna lose without TVC and with it, going to rely on the other person falling for the stall fight bait. If fighting Su-30 is any indication, the only advantage F-22 will have is BVR, if they model some kind of stealth at all.
Heck I think the Rafale is there already with the MICA changes on dev
its basically the USAF tactical bomber with its lack of turn performance and its fighting 4.5 gen delta canards. BOL pod would help it survive
Yeah, im not worried about the F-22 in the WVR regime. Its the balance of BVR regime. Im also more worried about how OP the SU-57 is going to be rather than the F-22 that I probably wont ever fight in SB.
Yeah… That thing is just downright OP now and C5s wont help at all
isnt the F-15E not still one of the best BVR fighters in the game purely because it has 8 AMRAAMs and has insane thrust so can fire them off and turn before anyone can shoot back in retaliation
So by that logic, can the Tornado Gr4 get ASRAAM to help it survive against US F-16s and F-18s at the same BR?
it can still use its 9X effectively at close range with radar slaving. itll do fine, and they will probably have to add spectral flares to deal with IIR missiles
i dont think IIR missiles are guaranteed
Gr4 already gets tons of BOL countermeasures to help survive
waiting on them modelling the IRCCM like they did on the Mi-28NM where its just immune to IR missiles (even if this type of jamming is useless on IIR missiles)
In a headon, they wont help much, that is kinda the point of ASRAAMs design philopshy.
But they havent even buffed BOL to help against the IIR SAMs being added.
Why don’t you understand that they think it’s realistic?
Still an 11.3 aircraft at 12.3.
If the argument that the F-15E, a 14.0 aircraft, needs BOL. because its a “bomber” and struggles against fighters. Then the Tornado Gr4 needs more than just BOL.
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Back to the start adding more biplanes :)