Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

didnt know they shot HMD’s at enemy aircraft. and they still go for the accurate loadout for the most part for the F-15’s and similar aircraft

My understanding is, the F-22 without thrust vectoring is comparable to existing aircraft like the F-16C, but with it, will be more maneuverable at the cost of speed. So I’d imagine it’s going to be a lighter Su-30SM. Not really a threat to any dogfighter. I mean, IIRC, people were talking about how eurocanards beat the F-22 in training dogfights so it’s not some super weapon.

The stealth part is the more interesting aspect because if it can get launches off before someone can launch back, already at an advantage in BVR. The caveat being, will they model it at all for it to matter. Otherwise the F-22 seems pretty benign.

Actually I already see something like the Su-57, if modeled with that DIRCM I saw mentioned earlier, being a bit of a pain to deal with

It suprecruises at Mach 1.7.

It will be the fastest plane added to date, probably outspeeding the F-111 on the deck.

doubt it, the F-111 was made to haul ass on the deck

Maybe at altitude, except most players won’t go past 5km lol

I assume KF-51 will be on the Hungarian (Italian) tree?

Basically from TWR alone it is not going to be anywhere near this. It is pretty much guaranteed to be at least on par with the Eurocanards, which happen to be the best dogfighters in the game.

still insanely fast. according to test pilot the F-22 at mach 2 feels like riding in a luxury car

So, being american, its fine in straight lines, but doesnt understand what a corner is?

:P

German Typhoons beat F-22s in WVR dogfights and that was without AMK.

Though the Typhoon is underperforming a lot at the moment in game

an F-22 without TVC, on full combat load, is still able to beat a slick F-16 in ideal dogfight config at very high altitude and fries it at lower alt and/or lower speed

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Sure, but need to factor in the WT conversion factor where things are nerfed to not break the game engine and/or balance.

AFAIK it’s only comparable with TVC which is not a good thing. It’s like saying the Su-30 is comparable to eurocanards with AoA limiter off. That being said, while the eurocanards are the best, even planes like the Gripen and now F-2 can actually dogfight them to the point that pilot skill plays the greater factor. So I’m not worried about the F-22 reaching anything new meta wise without stealth (which is also why I feel like stealth won’t be modeled so they can fit it in the December update, all the hype with zero downsides)

I will not voice my opinions about the quality of the pilots involved, but rest assured as far as the video game War Thunder is concerned, I do not see how F-22 will be anything but the best plane we’ve seen so far, especially in dogfights.

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They’re going to figure out how to add fake vehicles without upsetting the fun haters. Or they’ll just do it anyway, but very slowly. Boiling the frog slowly kind of thing.
F-16AJ and R2Y2 haters are not going to like 2026 and beyond.
“but mechanics and bug fixes!”
New vehicles makes them money, and vehicles that aren’t in half the trees already make even more than that.

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So without TVC, planes like the Gripen/F-2/J-10? will beat be able to beat it but with TVC, it’s going to run circles around anything, while floating (unlike the Su-30 which falls)?

didnt those F-22’s have fuel tanks? and the F-22 could have been in a defensive situation. and how many kills did the F-22’s score? pretty sure the Typhoons had no external armament as well.

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Man screw this 5th gen malarkey.
I just want my J-16


And we should have a EW update before stealth

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I would rather want the J-15T but J-16 is also nice.

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I want them to go back a bit tbh, theres a lot of later cold war aircraft and LCAs etc they’ve missed in their rush for big shiny

F-15E should get BOL pods because its unbalanced vs other nation F-15s? am I gullible or

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