Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Yeah, but no one has information regarding these vehicles… So their stats, armament and model will just be pure speculation.

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Gaijin can add the F-22 as long as they fix the Typhoon in every way.
Radar, FM, Payload all of it.

I will fly low down and use PIRATE to snipe F-22s

I think we know it’s not realistic. This is one of those Balance > Realism changes they did since BOL pods are kinda crazy and hard to balance against planes that don’t have it. Honestly, hard to say what’s preferred, just no BOL pods added, or nerfed-BOL pods added. It’s the same with ARH, nerfed ARH or no ARH.

i dont think APG-77 cares

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I am amazed people even stock grind at this tier but some people have the time I guess lol. I figure Gaijin makes the most money off us GEing these things as they come out

Looks at Soyuz

We’ll start getting the odd item of detail in coming years Im sure.

Anyway. Like I added to my post. I can see a switch from new vehicles to new mechanics.

  • ECM
  • CBUs
  • TRD
  • Proper AESA
  • SARs
  • GMR
  • ASMs
  • MMW

etc etc

There are LOADS of missing features and stuff that would be interesting to add and then there is always adding new gamemodes that require vehicles to be used differently. We dont have to have WW2 style dogfights for all eternity at top tier

we still lack the majority of the most famous WWII vehicles for most nations.

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The issue is that several aircraft can only be justified at their Current BRs with full strength BOL. But they’ve locked themselves into a corner by adding things like the F-18 with 8x BOL.

Tornado F3 or Viggen D for example are hardly even worth mentioning that htey have a lot of CMs thanks to BOL. But an F-18 with 1200+ CMs is a different story.

But artificially nerfing the Tornado, Viggen, Shar, etc just because the F-18 has loads is just an unfair way to do it.

It is very powerful even now, but there weren’t many planes with HMD at that time.

Like even being a plane at 13.7 without HMD is rare, you expect them to honestly put a 14.7+ plane in without HMD?

Because HMD wasn’t a big thing when the earlier ones were added.

You KNOW stuff gets locked down and they barely touch older planes MOST of the time.

I don’t know what some of you are on to think we could ever get an F-22 without HMD chilling at some low BR.

Yeah. So WW2 to early cold war jets being added, but for top tier, being more about mechanics and advanced features rather than new vehicles. Id have no issue with that

The US mains litereally argued for the F-15A to be a lower BR because it was only one without HMD.

Wouldnt be a low BR. Just would be a little lower than with. Like 14.7 instead of 15.0 and creates a more gradual progression onto one wiht advanced late weapons

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exactly

Yea, I’d say remove BOL from planes that already have ample CMs at their tier and use BOL as more of a tool to balance (like how A-10s get 9Ls).

I just don’t think Gaijin like to add good planes with insane flight models at a lower BR by intentionally restricting them, it usually doesn’t happen very often.

It makes sense with F-2A which is a competitive dogfighter to some of the best planes, but F-22A would blow most of them out of the water as I understand it.

Basically F-22 flight performance is too strong for them to do the under-BR thing.

Yeah. Or like with the Harrier T10. Just limit the amount they have.

no, all 3 US F-15 should have them to balance out advantages of other nation F-15 and other planes

F-15A is probably the perfect example.

Gaijin likes to tax planes to higher BR if they have good flight performance.

Like they’d never take F-15 with the strongest engines and give it the worst possible AIM-7 and AIM-9 just to put it at 11.3 or something.

They always do the opposite.

But they rarely change a plane much once it is added, with the ARH patch being a notable exception.

AIM-9M was the hot new thing, it was added to F-15A.

F-2A without HMD is stripped of good equipment, which also allows the flight performance to shine.

F-22A doesn’t need any help for the flight performance to shine and if they didn’t add early Eurofighter and Rafale without HMD I can’t see them doing it to F-22.

thats completely inaccurate though.

the F-22 only got HMD operationally a couple months ago and it was tested only a couple years back. no HMD F-22 is accurate

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Their literal golden rule is Armament/Ammunition is a balance factor. Being able to use it doesn’t mean it automatically gets it.

If there’s nothing stopping, say, F-15A from running with AIM-9B and AIM-7D they might consider that legitimate. They only tend not to do something if it is impossible, like how F-22A (probably but idk) cannot use AIM-7 of any kind.

My point here was AIM-9M is added to F-15A partially because new shiney weapon goes on new shiney plane and also it keeps the BR higher.