so is close aircraft is here with us in top tier grb? cause everytime i play top tier the closest any cas is still in 6km range and thats only heli with fnf, plane never closer than 10km
if its that bad to you then cant they just thow it in as an optional 3rd vehicle, for say an IM-SHORAD so you arent stuck with only the C-RAM?
or just leave the current plane a2g munition as is and continue to improve ground first, for like 2 year, as long as top tier cas been undefeatable
so most nations should be left with their 1980’s mavericks against SLM’s and S1’s while ground gets better and better SPAA? dealing with Kh-38MT is fair but only 1 nation gets those
what is the difference with maverick, aasm hammer, and kh38 for ground player??? that’s right, nothing, they all can kill you from far away without getting close to the battlefield, right now ground can almost do the same to air as what air been doing for years to ground
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range, speed, guidance. maverick carries will be within range, kh38mt and AASM will not
so what you listed is the difference between a2g and a2g, in other words between cas
the ground player gets less warning with the Kh-38, the Kh-38 range means that unless SPAA is fixed there is nothing on the ground that can match its range, the GNSS and IR guidance of the Kh-38MT makes it more versatile to use against the ground player.
so that’s mean for maverick ground player is defenseless and dead but with 38mt is defenseless and dead faster, and you want new a2g armament that is better to make sure ground is more defenseless and dead much faster
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by your logic there is no reason to for an enemy use a 152mm shell instead of a 9mm because assuming both hit center mass you will die
and did you just skim over everything i said about adding more varied SPAA
no, this is my answer for that
what 9mm that can pen and kill a tank?? and that is not my logic, my logic is ground already hopeless against current cas, and you want better cas without solving the imbalance between cas and ground?
cas can already kill ground from spawn to spawn with fnf munition, so now it’s time for ground to level the playing field by allowing us to kill cas from their spawn using fnf munition
I think it’s best not to think of ground as ground only and more combined. Just like you have to grind SPAA to play in GRB, you need to grind CAS and CAP to be fully effective.
The problem right now is certain CAS are overbearing and instead of nerfing those CAS, Gaijin has decided to go for SPAA which may or may not be effective against those specific CAS planes while deleting everything else, including friendly CAP planes trying to do the same job SPAAs do.
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the problem is, spaa is in the same tree as other ground, it can be researched with the same vehicle as ground, plane need another set of vehicle and mode to effectively research
no, in current live all top tier cas are overbearing to all spaa, even pantsir is struggling against rafale,typhoon, f15 etc, and that is the best we got, even if gaijin nerf k38 launcher we still need the next gen aa, cas should not be untouchable from ground vehicle
CAS includes helicopters. The planes you mentioned are the specific ones in question, namely the Rafale/Su-30/34/etc.
Unrelated, but I’m curious about the proposed Ground RB change of putting the airfield further away and forcing airfield spawns on bad weather. I think it would go a long way in helping immediate revenge killing
ah yea top tier heli without fnf is in bad spot rn, well, atleast the one without broken ldircm
definitely will help with revenge bombing, and somewhat with cap if it is far enough cause you have more area where spaa is not a big enough problem but still outside airfield aa
I didn’t mind Su34’s ML, MT was too much. I really think ML would be a perfectly balanced weapon to have cause FnF is balanced off by standoff range.
They gave the su25 the Kh38mt before so they felt like they would have to add it to the next generation ground striker as well
Gaijin had a simple reason for giving the 38mt to the su34
Nobody/ not as many ppl would have grinded it if it wasn’t better at Cas than the su25
only the plane in the back is wrong but other then that, pretty fire
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Yeah. I felt like it was really meta in Su25SM3, when I had my Tor, but it was meta, not OP. Also no ARH on that thing is really useful. I think it’s both kinetics and ARH that made Su34 and su30 OP.
ML for SU-34 is not so good for its fixed pod, means it can’t move but only go straightly to enemy missiles.
so it’s a case ML too bad but MT too good
or maybe AGM-65 is too bad, if something with AASM level can replace it, it may also be fine.