Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

honestly with high range SPAA being inevitable, its pretty much going to mean that spawning aircraft will pretty much be impossible unless ground maps overall were made much larger for both aircraft and tanks

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Oh, bvvd already said the surface launched SLM can only reach 40km when launched from a plane :)
I bet they’ll spot similar marketing lies for the other SAMs and let CAS continue ruining GRB.

Sometimes I wonder if they even think at all before they speak.

Watch them add AIM-174 with surface launched range.

That actually reminds me, there is ground launched RIM-174 which could be nice SPAA for the US

Hey @DirectSupport if the Patriot is too much to add with the SAMP, do you think the Typhon launched RIM-174 would be more suitable to add sooner?

Would be cool if we got Typhon + SAMP update next

You underestimate how much damage a 750kg warhead traveling at mach 1.6+ would do.

It may not outright sink it sure. But the Iowa isn’t going to be in a good state afterwards. No ship is for that matter considering this is a thing that was designed to kill carriers.

How thick is the main armor belt on carriers? Not to mention, it wouldn’t even kill a carrier without multiple missiles

How is it buggy?

Meh, narrow scan is completely fine

Not being a boat, being able to turn and get in the notch faster

so, 750 kg HE shell with 544 m/s? It is basically level of Saschen’s shell, which often struggles damaging 6.7 battleships with AP.

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New reports are up

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STR, ITR, Max speed, supercruise speed, rip speed, G-tolerance are all underperforming by quite a bit

Great if you are in ARB and have a marker telling you exactly where the enemy is, useless in ASB when trying to find the Rafale or Su-30SM that has insta found you on their radar and is about to send a swarm of ARH at you.

Im sorry, anyone who describes the F-15 as “a boat” needs to go spend a year playing the Tornado F3

Possibly but, as other’s have mentioned, it’s actually pretty accurate for a first attempt. It’s beating everything it should and losing to everything it should (i.e. winning in slow speed horizontal turn fights, losing when in vertical fights)

It’s staying true to the name, like the low tier zero, as long as people don’t get baited into dogfighting with it in unfavorable scenarios, they can dictate the fight while the F-2 can only react

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Fair enough then. I guess its just an F-16 with a bigger wing, nothing for Gaijin to blame on “Game limitations” there

Not necessarily, the Agile Falcon is pretty different to the F-16C aerodynamically and the F-2A incorporates further changes to the original concept.

Its Gaijin, it will be an F-16 with modified code

Oh noo… it’s gonna be moved up in BR to a ludicrous degree, just like the lower tier Zeroes!

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It’s pretty much what I was hoping for, a better F-16AJ (though admitedly this exceeded my expectations because it can still compete with Rafale and EFT in rating).

My personal experience in my AJ is that I rarely lose to EFT/Rafales because I rarely run into that smart pilot that knows to take advantage of their thrust, but also since I play mostly ground RB, they can’t do that either without getting into SPAA height. So having something that’s better than the AJ is just perfect

For air RB, the F-15J(M) is just better, but there is a fun rat gameplay to be had with the F-2 that I will enjoy.

For ground RB, the F-2 will truly shine as a dogfighter and mayhaps have some useful CAS (maybe ASM-2s as well), but I think currently, Thai Gripen might be better there anyway

Which is basically what it is rn lol

Not only structural but also electronically, which is also something that people miss when they just compare the two visually

Given that it can go toe to toe with current top tier, I think it can be BR 20 and still be fine right now lol. When 5th gen comes though, things will be interesting…

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I think the F-2A’s drag is slightly too low while maneuvering right now (not by much) but the basic characteristics is there, might be some slight tweaks here and there before the live server drops but so far it’s looking good.

I heard the engine is weaker than it should be but I haven’t really looked into it. I’m just waiting for changes this upcoming week. Though I’m hopeful since it’s not obscenely broken like launch Gripen or anything like that

The engine has the correct power.

For drag its kind of hard to say, some wing profiles are a hair too large, which helps, but also the elevator deflects way more then IRL. I wouldn’t say its a perfect modeling, but all the things off are off in very minor ways in different directions, so it about averages out to a fairly accurate overall model. (excluding high speed compression issues)

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the SLM missing about 45% energy man it should be Maximum speed exceeding Mach 3 as (official brochures 2023) stated
and it has plenty of Verified in live fire tests Ukraine engagements (2023) Intercepted Kh-47M2 Kinzhal (Mach 10) by high-altitude and so on