Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Not necessarily, the Agile Falcon is pretty different to the F-16C aerodynamically and the F-2A incorporates further changes to the original concept.

Its Gaijin, it will be an F-16 with modified code

Oh noo… it’s gonna be moved up in BR to a ludicrous degree, just like the lower tier Zeroes!

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It’s pretty much what I was hoping for, a better F-16AJ (though admitedly this exceeded my expectations because it can still compete with Rafale and EFT in rating).

My personal experience in my AJ is that I rarely lose to EFT/Rafales because I rarely run into that smart pilot that knows to take advantage of their thrust, but also since I play mostly ground RB, they can’t do that either without getting into SPAA height. So having something that’s better than the AJ is just perfect

For air RB, the F-15J(M) is just better, but there is a fun rat gameplay to be had with the F-2 that I will enjoy.

For ground RB, the F-2 will truly shine as a dogfighter and mayhaps have some useful CAS (maybe ASM-2s as well), but I think currently, Thai Gripen might be better there anyway

Which is basically what it is rn lol

Not only structural but also electronically, which is also something that people miss when they just compare the two visually

Given that it can go toe to toe with current top tier, I think it can be BR 20 and still be fine right now lol. When 5th gen comes though, things will be interesting…

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I think the F-2A’s drag is slightly too low while maneuvering right now (not by much) but the basic characteristics is there, might be some slight tweaks here and there before the live server drops but so far it’s looking good.

I heard the engine is weaker than it should be but I haven’t really looked into it. I’m just waiting for changes this upcoming week. Though I’m hopeful since it’s not obscenely broken like launch Gripen or anything like that

The engine has the correct power.

For drag its kind of hard to say, some wing profiles are a hair too large, which helps, but also the elevator deflects way more then IRL. I wouldn’t say its a perfect modeling, but all the things off are off in very minor ways in different directions, so it about averages out to a fairly accurate overall model. (excluding high speed compression issues)

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the SLM missing about 45% energy man it should be Maximum speed exceeding Mach 3 as (official brochures 2023) stated
and it has plenty of Verified in live fire tests Ukraine engagements (2023) Intercepted Kh-47M2 Kinzhal (Mach 10) by high-altitude and so on


SLM can barely do Mach 2 after 15 seconds of burn when it should be Mach 3.2 at peak velocity and this speed should be on the 20km not after 6km only which is insane for an irist
and i try the slm couldn’t pull more then 30g and cant even mention that either its really weird should be 60g and TVS should be better than mica em if you guys fought vs that missile
even QH17 Chinese missile hit 2.60 with ez and can mention that till 15km while slm can go beyond 12km and hit moving target

somebody needs to report lack of energy it has
i have just some little information on it like
Wind Tunnel Testing
Diehl’s 2018 tests confirmed the missile achieves Mach 3.2 at 15 km with a boost thrust profile “exceeding 200 kN” which is good and that is in ([Janes Defence, 2019] (https://janes.com/)) and “Acceleration to Mach 3 within
8 seconds at high altitude” (IRIS-T SLM Brochure, P. 12).
and in Ukraine Engagement (Oct 2023)
IRIS-T SLM intercepted a Shahed drone at 17 km range while still accelerating – matching the extended sustain thrust profile (Source).

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How do dev server updates work, do they just drop out of the blue or get some ‘planned works’ announcement beforehand?

It just updates. Nothing said, it just does.

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As I said in the post, it only has textures.

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That’s good to hear.

Honestly the hardest part now is going to be waiting a whole week to finally get this on live and actually start playing with it

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F-15 Will likely trade, Typhoon is marginally faster.
Turns far better at high speeds and altitudes but also loses it’s speed faster when doing so.

Scenario i think with equal pilots the
The F-15 sees the Typhoon first he locks TWS sends a 120C

Normally what happens is Typhoon pilot fights all 4 of their rarar modes to find this F-15. Then fires back if its within 20-30km. Typhoon has 6 120s or 5 if you take an additional 9M. Cant waste missiles on those speculative shots!

With a 120B Typhoon can crank and defend while trying to keep DL defeating the first missile.
However 120C will be when modelled correctly faster, harder to notch and on a platform that is not only as fast as Typhoon but that also has 8 of them.

If this new missils is reliably killing targets at 30-40km then the games up for Typhoon. Even if you play passively your team will be decimated by 3 F-15s flying at mach jesus spamming 120Cs.

dont forget its ghost armour thing weighs 33 tons and can be penned by a 40mm at 1000m through the cheek

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Literally me but Spyder lol.

The easiest part will be removing Chaparral from my lineup’s and never looking at it again xD

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And you know this from what experience in the F-15?

Yeah and the Rafale pays for that with being the worst 14.0 at longer range BVR.

And the F-15E pays for that with being the worst or second worst at wvr.

Your line of thought is flawed, “oh the Typhoon is not the best at something so it’s not the one of the best 14.0s overall”. However you completely ignore that the planes that are the best in X aspect pay a serious price at Y aspect, meanwhile the Typhoon is among the top 2-3 in every aspect.

That’s not the most egregious part
It has 15mm of base armor behind the add-on plate lol on the LFP
Evidence points to it being 25mm thick irl



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