Major Update “Hornet's Sting” — DEV Server Changelog (28.02.2025)

[Noveos_Republic]

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[magazine2]

Hey everyone, just an update for you — Advance to the Rhine has been added to the dev server for ground forces and can now be tested. Please leave your feedback on it here:

[Feedback] Advance to the Rhine - Ground Battles Map

[image] [image] The war has now reached the right bank of the Rhine. The ancient city here has survived a series of air raids and now its cobblestone streets with the ruins of buildings and the ghosts of abandoned trams have become a real battlefield. [image] [image] We’ve updated the graphics for one of the most popular city locations in War Thunder! Our artists have replaced the building models and completely updated the textures on this location, all while preserving the navigation, capt…

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[Selasco]

the premium f18 will be 12.3 for ground battles?

[Schindibee]

@Smin1080p_WT

F/A-18 and Su-30SM.

So I’m full of hope assuming the current state of Hornet’s DDI’s and MPCD and their distribution within the three MFD’s ist still WIP…

[Psusennes]

Premium Hornet and Premium Netz have no cockpit yet - getting an error

[magazine2]

Hey guys! The dev server received an update, I’ve added the new points to the changelog in green for new items, and red for removed items.

[Anonymous4245]

@Stona_WT

Su-34, Rafale C F3 — since aircraft have ESA radars, TWS mode now also tracks targets outside of the current scanning area but inside the radar scanning limits. In the hangar the mode is named “TWS ESA” in the radar X-ray.

I gotta clarify, is this limited to only those 2 or is it gonna apply to the Su-30 and Kfir C.10? Since they also use ESA antennas

[Morvran]

@Stona_WT

Su-34, Rafale C F3 — since aircraft have ESA radars, TWS mode now also tracks targets outside of the current scanning area but inside the radar scanning limits. In the hangar the mode is named “TWS ESA” in the radar X-ray.

Is this getting added to the Typhoon?

@Stona_WT

MiG-29 (all variants), Su-27 (all variants), J-11 (all variants), EF-2000, Typhoon FGR.4, F-2000A, Rafale C F3 — with the inability to continue tracking via radar, when tracking automatically switches to IRST, it is now possible to launch SARH and ARH missiles. When switching to IRST manually, it is still impossible to launch SARH and ARH missiles

Will we get the ability to fire AMRAAMs when manually switching to IRST in the future for the Typhoon?

[Anonymous4245]

@Morvran_

Is this getting added to the Typhoon?

Captor-M is an MSA not ESA though

[Morvran]

It has basically the same capbility despite being M-scan

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/P8Gb6ip55srm

[Anonymous4245]

Interesting, should get it then

[Morvran]

Yup, the recommended implementation is to basically just C&P the AESA code over to it.

[Matias_Durg]

So the only thing that changed in the update to the dev server for naval system rework was adding an option for damage shown on screen. No response, no interest in the points made by players here, nor in the thread covering the unsinkability mechanic/destruction of ship mechanics they’re introducing that equally have been rejected by the naval player community (and that thread has seen similar protest against the new aiming mechanics for NAB).

Can we please get communication from the devs on this? There has been regular communication on land/air systems and changes, but none on naval, and none on naval for multiple updates despite repeat protest of the changes.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

Second dev server is online, and there is no signs of Gaijin reconsidering this. Therefore, I must insist;

@Stona_WT

• Abrams (all variants) — internal module placements have been supplemented and refined. A module for the under-turret compartment (basket) has been added, which acts as a horizontal guidance module.
• Leopard 2 (all variants) — internal module placements have been supplemented and refined. A module for the under-turret compartment (basket) has been added, which acts as a horizontal guidance module.

The new and more detailed modules for MBTs are amazing, but:

1- Turret baskets are NOT a part of the traverse mechanisms and should not be modelled as such.
2- Turret baskets should stop spalling, NOT generate additional spalling.

Turret baskets should be a small strength; yet this poor implementation is turning them into an enormous, additional, unrealistic weakness.

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At this point, there are countless bug reports and topics about this. Please, listen to the playerbase.

Bug reports being rejected arbitrarily- Abrams and Leopard turret baskets

Gaijin has decided to WRONGLY implement and mismodel a feature. We were instructed to make bug reports, and so we did, as we thought it to be a honest mistake. Response: “NOT A BUG”. They intend to do nothing about it, even knowing it’s wrong. What meaning do bug reports have when they are arbitrarily rejected? It is obvious that something wrong is being pushed here and we can do nothing about it through the official channels we are provided. The whole point of turret baskets is crew comfort …

Stop count the entire turret basket of the tank as part of the traverse mechanism!

In the dev server, the entire turret basket of the M1 series and Leopard 2 series has been counted as part of the horizontal drive. What kind of logic is this? The turret basket is merely an extension of the turret itself, and as can be seen from Gaijin’s modeling, it primarily consists of lightweight metal, serving as a non-load-bearing structure to prevent crew members from being injured by mechanical components. Now Gaijin is telling us that all of this affects the rotation of the tank’s trav…

Turret basket unrealistic

So on Leopard 2a7V and Abrams (but i want to focus on the 2a7V) a new module called “Turret basket” is added and if shot the horizontal drive dies. [image] Now since Gaijin want’s to be SO REALISTIC with Leopard by nerfing it’s depression from the side and back, wouldn’t it make sence that they make it realistic and change this stupid stuff, sure keep the turret basket but change it, the turret basket has nothing to do with the Horizontal drive/ring. This is just nerfing leopards for no reaso…

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IhJ0lAuJ6vG4
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/F3VLdOYz9khi
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JK00m2C0SKfL

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@Smin1080p_WT we have used all available channels possible; bug reports (as we were instructed on the Forums), Forum topics (as we were then instructed on the bug reports), even Content Creators on Youtube, thousands of people Reddit and Discord- this is a topic of enormous concern among the playerbase.

Has all of this been forwarded to the developers for reconsideration?

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EDIT: apparently, according to personal accounts from tank crew members, Gaijin’s modelling is actually correct- damage to the turret basket can and will disable the rotation mechanisms. Therefore, my stance has changed from opposing this change to a neutral one.

[Rupert64]

naval AB and RB are very close related game modes - AB is clear the easier and funnier one. No active naval AB player supports this change. Maybe there is some tutorial or advice missing for new players but its really not that difficult to learn.

[AlvisWisla]

@Rupert64

No active naval AB player supports this change.

That’s cause arcade is harder than realistic right now.
Why play a worse game mode?

[Rupert64]

very well spoken!
I will also add to the list the torpedo bug which doesn’t allow to switch tubes of boats and ships which have spare torpedoes on-board like the german pt boat S701 and the german and japanese destroyers. When a tube or set of launchers is empty one have to wait until it was reloaded to launch the next torpedo even if the second launcher is ready for fire - switching the tubes is only possible if the launchers are not empty. This bug was accepted but not solved since a few months…

[joshje100]

Also, are there any more MFD updates planned for the future? Like some more weapon stores MFD pages like:

F-16C

AV-8B

A-10C

[Rupert64]

they rather should provide a proper tutorial on aiming but switching the aiming depend of rank would be silly - if one has ships/boats with and w/o this “system” in the same deck would cause a mess.