Same disclaimer as always; I made this list long ago, some vehicles shouldn’t be included (Italian Leopard), some are missing, others are not yet ready (but will be soon), etc, but to have a general idea:
And this is ONLY MBTs- leaving aside the very much needed SAMs, or lighter vehicles. And not including tanks like the several Object projects, etc.
I can’t see why “copy-paste Leopards” is a problem when we have 5 billion SI-27, F-15, F-16 and now F-18 variants ingame.
Vehicles being a part of the same family doesn’t make them “copy-pasted”. Panzer IV.C and Panzer IV.H aren’t copy-paste just because “they are both Panzer IVs”… it’s just how the development of war machines works- through multiple variants till a new model comes. Nothing wrong with implementing these variants for increased effectiveness and better lineups ingame!
Mate, you’re advocating for a niche game mode that will only be good for a very select few jets just because you want to roleplay and scream out “Fox three going out” or whatever. Very select few planes have the ability to be good at BVR engagements, and you are punishing those who do not have those planes because of that.
Not really every jet has good BVR excluding maybe the Rafale at top tier.
What makes a good BVR jet?
Speed
Altitude
Missile
Radar
Put everyone on equal starting ground.
Removes the altitude issue
Removes or reduces the speed issue
Gives greater parity to missiles.
Even the suffering Gripen could match the Typhoon or F-15E if it didnt have to take off and climb to 40kft in the space of 2 minutes.
You statement about very few planes have the chance to be good at BVR is wrong.
Wanting to shout “Fox 3” Or maybe just using the jets like they should be? Or in your eyes do we remove BVR missiles?
You know jets have to take off of the airfield and climb to an altitude in real life too, right?
Again, the closest thing to what you want is the tournament mode and having watched the tournaments it is painfully clear that people would be meta slaving in such a mode and even fewer players would use planes like the Gripen, (Sea) Harriers, F-16, MiG-29, etc.
Niche planes, attackers and bombers would have no place in such a mode at all.
Not the case at all I even said actual objectives for ground attack aircraft and not just fly under the swarms of air superiority fighters like we have now.
8 V 8 doesnt have to be E-sports it’s more manageable for players and the server rather than handling 50+ missiles at the first merge.
Look if you guys like it the way it is thats fine, personally it’s stale and its not changed since WW2 era.
Huh, didn’t really notice that the US main strat is to become a rocketship as a US main myself, but that probably has to do with my playstyle lol. But you make some good points.
Please tell us more about how you do not understand other jets. The Sukhoi and the MiGs are notorious for their terrible radars. How long do you think they’ll last when they A: cannot lock onto people and B: have to use missiles that are repeatedly needed. Even the R-77-1s have been needed, and they haven’t left the Dev server, they are not going to be the new missile that destroys the AIM 120Bs. In fact, the only jets that might dominate in your game mode will strictly be the people using said meta missiles.
As much as we all enjoy talking terribly about how ARB is at the moment, the only thing going for it is that it is about as balanced as you can get. If you don’t have the best long range missiles, you can still dog fight. If you cannot dog fight, you still have amazing missiles. If you’re running a strike aircraft (like the Su-34), you can still destroy bases. Your mode is punishing everyone BUT two or three planes.
Typhoon has one of the worst top tier Radars in the game on a par with the Su-27.
It’s not as explained allowing all jets to get higher and faster increases the strength of their weapon systems. Typhoon and F-15 excell in BVR because they are the fastest and the highest!
You can still choose to fly low if you want though, Gaijin will never remove multipathing we will be using Meteors and 120Ds and flying 40 metres will still be a counter to them…
Fair. Personally as a US Main tho, I always just thought that I was the issue and not the aircraft and that the other nations just had better pilots lol.
You just said you want everyone to start at a high altitude, but now instead of having people take off of the airfield and then climb you want everyone that doesn’t want to LARP BVR to spend time dropping down to ground level?
So, let me get this straight, you are against airfields because they allow people to be “careless”, but you would be fine with respawns, which would allow people to be completely reckless?
