But still 60 flares on an aircraft that you will struggle to flare a R-60 with because of the broken IR signature. Also with the worse FM and performance even with Phimat’s 216 chaff it doesn’t make it equal to the AV-8B(NA)
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Eh, Smin I love ya, but the Harriers always need more IR than chaff countermeasures, + correct me if I’m wrong phimat mounts on the outer pylon so you’d have to give up ordnance for the addition chaff.
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Never try to please brit mains. Thats the lesson here.
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Not bad attack aircraft premium, and no problem without BOL dispenser
But sadly no AIM-9M
After USS Alaska ?
Gajin decompression max BR to 7.3 for Bluewater fleet next quarter or third quarter this year ?
you know, the british fixed this problem by adding these rails that go between the hardpoint and the missile…
i happen to have photos of the T.10 using them as well…
hmmm
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For a pre-order this looks underwhelming, and that’s coming from someone who genuinely wants to buy it, and I typically never do pre-orders.
A nice title and camo might make up for this but I won’t be playing it much outside of my top tier ground lineup without BOL, especially given the IR sig combined with obnoxious amount of irccm/all aspect spam at 11.3
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and will i have to replace a missile to equip this pod?
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The issue isn’t the aircraft they chose, it’s the neglecting of key features that keep a subsonic like that competitive against supersonic Fox-1 slingers at the BR (being CM count), besides it is worse in every way than every other harrier 2 so shouldn’t be regarded as a competitor to the Av-8B na
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@Smin1080p_WT
On the Harrier subject is their any plans to further Buff the First gen Harriers and fix the way the flap deployment works? As well as increasing AOA limit in virtual instructor to a useable limit.
This is critical in the Sea Harrier whose primary role is a fighter aircraft. Even in the Shars HUD the AOA symbology goes all the way to 20 degrees AOA not 16. The flap deployment was instrumental as well as it allowed more G to be pulled and Higher AOA to be sustained before buffet occurred.
The Wing is fitted with 2 sets of dogtooth extensions and loads of vortex generators and it was known for having really good High ADD and heavy buffet handling.
AV8B NA (180cm, 10840kgf, combat attacker version)
T.10 (60cm, 9940kgf, trainer combat version)
Same BR for airRB and groundRB
No JDAM either if thats you plan for SimRB
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Yeah the missiles it will face make 60 flares a joke. You have 9M’s from the A-10C, R-73’s from the Su-25T/39/BM/SM3, Magic 2’s from the Jaguar IS and Mirage F1’s.
All of those will take enough CM’s to flare off so that after 2 minutes you’re left with nothing to defend yourself with.
This isn’t taking into account the non-IRCCM missiles you will face that just won’t care about your flares in this thing like 9L’s, R-60M’s, and Pl-5B’s which themselves might as well be IRCCM when fired at any Harrier rear aspect which every missile will be fired at due to the FM.
60 Flares for this thing aren’t nearly enough for it. Even with BOL flares being weaker they should be enough to have a chance at flaring these by dumping as many as possible.
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how much does it cost?
Sorry, it not 2nd event vehicle in rank VII
Harrier T.10 low CM and no BOL dispenser, but AV-8B Night Attack equipped 2nd gen targeting pod
Yeah the IR sig of the Harriers is cracked in War Thunder as they model heat based on thrust yet IRL the Harriers where very cold.
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Don’t know yet, it isn’t up on the store.
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4x mav loadout easily beats the 10x LGB loadout in ground RB though.
don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind people taking 10x LGB at 11.7 GRB though, I won’t say no to free kills to spade my SPAA.
However, I’m sure Israel could have received a “transitional” solution. In fact, just last year many nations received multiple SPAAs in 10.3 (Osa and Strela for the USSR, Germany, Italy, and Great Britain) even though there wasn’t a real and urgent need—as is the case with Israel.
Before that, some nations even received SPAAs from third countries that weren’t even integrated into their ground tree: the Ito90 for France and Sweden; the Canadian ADATS for Great Britain; the Czech M53/59 for the USSR; and the Canadian Skink for the US and Great Britain.
How is it possible that a solution for Israel still hasn’t been found? Their best SPAA is a U.S. copy paste of the BR 9.7. I understand there’s a gap between the BR 9.7 and 12+, but when they’ve wanted to, they’ve always found a reasonable solution.
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which the AV8BNA also gets, 4 mavericks AGM65G (along with all the extra irl features it has)
I mean they changed the engine on the NA to IRL standard. we arent even asking for Aim9M or upgraded standard. Litterally just the BOL it used IRL.
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Super Mystere started to overheat excessively above 1km altitude, please upvote, it’s normal on the live server
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/P4ZbgWFtBswk
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There are no Soyuz at the dev server. Olivia stated it just because developers starts its development