i guess? i mean army has the same MAWS on a bunch of their helicopters, and F-15EX retained the bulge where the sensors were. maybe they are making some next gen MAWS or something but for now, they dont have it which is annoying for when later USAF F-15 get added.
well they did have a hand in it if they supplied the whole turret. but if there is really no other italian involvemnt i guess it goes to wherever patria is from, idk
Okay so if the US makes a gun and sells that gun for export does that mean the US made that vehicle
no, not necesarily
So how does Italy selling the turret somehow entitle them to the Finnish Patria? Again it doesn’t but that same logic gave the Ito 90M to France. I guess if we go with that logic whoever dug up the metal is entitled to the vehicle also. Its a silly thing. I guess all the harries belong on Britain because Britain sold the chassis even if they didn’t have a hand in making the AV-8B
werent those made by McDonnel Douglas?
why didnt you lead with finnish patria. then it goes to sweden since that is subtree host nation.
Based upon a British design and modified with direct help of BAE in cooperative development. Fully uses a British designed and built engine
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didnt BAE only rejoin the project later? after MDD did a lot of work
I literally did, i said Patria! Lmao they are a Finnish company and were showing off how modular the Patria is. Its why Lockheed has a few Patria chassis since its popular. Its why they showed off the Patria 40mm to the UK as a prototype.
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I literally say it at the top lol
my bad lol. i only really know Saab and Kongsberg for north europe defence companies lol
Patria has a big hand in ground vehicles and are the ones responsible for the most unique BAE Hawk mk.51A since they redid the hud and everything. It has an entirely unique HUD not used in any ither vehicle.
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From waht I recall from the Harrier 809 book. The US wanted a far more extensive upgrade called the AV-16, but needed the UKs help developing it, but it was too extensive and so instead they went for the AV-8B but the UK was simutaneously developing the Harrier Gr5. Im not entirely sure on the details of how much overlap there was.
want to take this to harrier thread? i think Ixtav knows about this
Nah.
But from what little i’ve been following in this conversation and I assume its something to do with nation of manufactoring
Spanish EAV-8B+ would mostly likely go to:
- Spain (TT or Sub-TT whereever that is )
- Italy (Spain being a minor axis nation and already operating an AV-8B+)
- Britain (Its a Harrier and Britain doesnt have a radar equipped Harrier II so it would be unique)
- US (as an export of the US version of a Harrier II they co-developed)
Patria AMV 120 prototype
Patria AMV28A prototype (wide boy)
Patria AMV35 was sold for Australia but lost to the redback so would make for a premium more likely for Sweden since it would likely have the AU flag but since it didn’t enter service. Thoigh id rather see the non AU version since i prefer Finnish camos more.
Pls gibgorg. I need an actual TT patria from Finland to go with in the same yodate when the Badger arrives. So ill have 2 nations to grind.
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i mean italy has their fair share of US jets (yeah im counting it since its the MDD one and tbf did come before UK harrier 2)
you do have a good point about radar harrier 2 for UK, but at the same time its going to be using US avionics with US weaponry, so nothing about it is really british except the engine. while for US it could be a premium i guess, or maybe a skin depending on how different it is from AV-8B+.
I don’t care about Spanish Hornet for Italy, give it more Italian props and subsonic jets. There are still a lot to come.
Hungarian and Romanian planes are welcome as well.
PS also pls no more Tornadoes at least for some time
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Now this does put a smile on my face
