Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

[quartas121]

why is it getting J/APG-2? should be J/APG-1 no?

[Nacho5944]

J/APG-1 was never modified with the J/ARG-1 transmitter that would allow for datalink with AAM-4 missiles, so if they made it J/APG-1 then we would not have any datalink channels at all for our missiles… Either that or it would be stuck with Sparrows.

[Smugspite]

@Nagisei

ASMs can just be the Japanese answer to FnF AGMs.

thats not really how that works lol, unless you wanna give everyone else their Cruise Missiles

[AgentZombie_6021]

kinda the point I’m beating over the head here.

They haven’t done it for the other 9 nations that can use ASMs

[quartas121]

sounds good to me

still an AESA over a M-scan

[Smugspite]

yeah, would love the Sea Suka but eh lol its a very meh ASM

[AgentZombie_6021]

China would love literally any of its ASMs or AGMs

[quartas121]

AGM-154B with 24 IIR guided AT submunitions when (its a glide bomb)

[Nagisei]

@Nacho5944

Tbh the F-2 wouldn’t even be on par with something like the Strike Eagle or Eurofighter in terms of CAS or CAP

I agree in terms of CAS, but CAP I think only really the EFT and Rafale are currently better. Of course that will change over time as things like the Gripen E, F-22s, etc are added. However, it will still be very competitive.

@AgentZombie_6021

there is no problem with L-JDAMs, I’m merely laughing at the comparison to the current Gen 4.5s which is just wrong. They’re good, they’re just nowhere near the top.

You say it as if L-JDAMs will act like Mavs and be pretty unreliable. They may not be the top, but they’re still capable.

@AgentZombie_6021

They could’ve done the same for plenty of the ASM’s in the game and they just refused to? Reminder China hasn’t gotten an ASM on their J-10 or JH-7A that is functionally just an ASM with a glorified Maverick Seekerhead

@Smugspite

thats not really how that works lol, unless you wanna give everyone else their Cruise Missiles

I’m not opposed for others to get their stuff. At some point they’ll add it.

@AgentZombie_6021

Stealth sneaking the missiles is something the 15JM can do easily, and as for dogfighting you’re still inferior to the Gen 4.5s that currently are in the game. So once again, I fail to see the comparison to said Gen 4.5s

Yes, but again, dogfighting is super common and the F-15J(M) while capable, is outclassed by a few more aircraft. That gap will be narrowed with the F-2.

@AgentZombie_6021

But saying it compares even slightly favorably against the Gen 4.5s

I think it would be competitive. It won’t be the best, but not worlds apart that either could come out on top. On average a better F-16AJ pilot could take down EFTs in a CAP role, so an F-2 just has a better chance is all.

@quartas121

why is it getting J/APG-2? should be J/APG-1 no?

Basically what Nacho said, though honestly, it’s Gaijin, they could add the J/APG-1 and deny bug reports till the sun comes down lol (or worse, monkey paw)

[quartas121]

fair enough, but still doesnt make sense to add latest version first imo

[Nagisei]

Well, same coulda been said with Rafale and PESA but they jumped to AESA so who knows

[AgentZombie_6021]

I present to you the Rafale C F3R

[dedale_stargate]

@BearHasLanded

And the Charles de Gaulle while we’re at it

Charles de Gaulle is a bit trickier as it carries Aster-15 for self defense

[BasherBenDawg8]

Let’s see,
What Hornets do y’all think gonna see this update?
(Ignore tandem seat designations alongside single seat, just there for the sake of it)

• F/A-18A/B 🇺🇸 (Surely…)
• F/A-18A/B+ 🇺🇸 (Leaked)
• F/A-18C/D 🇺🇸 (Leaked)
• F/A-18E/F 🇺🇸(Leaked)
• F/A-18A/B 🇦🇺 (HUG variants as well)
• F/A-18F 🇦🇺
• F/A-18C/D 🇨🇭 (Leaked)
• F-18C/D 🇫🇮
• F/A-18C/D 🇫🇮
• CF-118A/B 🇨🇦 (IMP/HEP variants as well)
• Spanish 🇪🇸, Malaysian 🇲🇾, or Kuwait 🇰🇼 Hornets? Doubtful, but maybe we’ll see some skins!

Perhaps it will be a USA Hornet only update, but I have a feeling that won’t be the case. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see, but it’s always fun to take a gander and speculate!

[dedale_stargate]

@Fireraid233

Le Redoutable with a speed of 37km/h

Note that this is the surfaced speed

the thing can reach 46 km/h while submerged (at the cost of being noisy)

[turismo_sp33d578-psn]

coulsd just be foldred under baz meshupar C

[Thenighthunter]

Swiss F-18 got leaked?

[Sahilku010101-psn]

Yes, in a previous leak

[Shay]

And also in the Dance of Dragons leak.

[ShermyDragon]

Thank god that last bit in the middle there got cancelled lol, that would’ve been a full-on disaster.

Also, maaaan, they had Yubetsu in the leaks and she’s still not in? I’d love a JPN ship with the OTO 76mm.