Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Could you give me a link to the site/formula used

It’s neither fully APCBC nor SAPCBC but somewhere in the middle. The bursting charge could technically classify it as a SAPCBC round and the large volume taken up by the charge weakens the shell.

Also might have something to do with it being base fuse SAPCBC.

I’m just going off of Navweaps and some guesstimates based on other ‘comparable’ shells.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_13-50_m1931.php#ammonote2

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Strange. And yeah me and my friends have used the exact calc youve mentioned to see potential pen values of not yet added shells and its fairly accurate but I find the 540mm very hard to believe

Do you have a source for that?

God save Consortium-Iveco-Oto Melara)

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I took that from the same source as NavWeaps ‘Battleships: Allied Battleships of World War Two’

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It could be accurate, perhaps gaijins formula is more accurate as @mathias486 suggested though that level of penetration is something I expect more of a WW1 era gun than a WW2 era particularly with the ballistic cap.

The same people relatively accurately predict scharnhorsts penetration in-game as 604mm (in-game its 579mm) which yeah its a 35mm difference… not 170mm difference.

Scharnhorst’s shells are 20mps faster and 230kg lighter so I would still expect more penetration from dunkerque’s shells than Scharnhorst’s but maybe that’s my guess being bad.

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I know it’s historical nor am I arguing it. I’m simply pointing out how funny it is that everyone else wants more missiles on other vehicles and they have to watch the Freccia get another two.

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I suppose we just have to hope Dunkerques AP isnt done

Unless someone finds a source suitable enough for the snail

Yes, and I’ve seen an article about how those numbers are possibly way off because they didn’t share the formula and thus nobody knows how they got there. It sounds almost right but without another source I wouldn’t trust it.

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Yeah I’ve seen people questioning it heavily. I doubt it is actually as high as 710mm irl.

My guess would be ~650 with it dropping off with range though not as bad as Scharnhorst’s shells or other light shells.

Might need to see if there’s any irl tests that can be found.

AV8S is in the archives but it looks like it will be an event vehicle, I’m happy because it doesn’t even look like there’s a lack of vehicles for techtree (irony)

Did we ever get clarification from Smin about him saying that all nations would receive a new rank 6 over “the next two patches?” Was that last patch and this patch or this one and the next one? Seems like it’ll be last one and this one unfortunately.

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What surprises me is the fact that Gaijin is not putting another 7.0 battleship for Japan, with practically all nations being forgotten with their equivalents.

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No you see repulse is clearly equal to Japans fleet of 16 inch armed ahips

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Japan clearly needs Yamato to counter this

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It could probably be roughly close to 710mm in game if the shell was an actual APBCBC
Except it’s not
The 320mm APCBC of the Novorossysk weights 35kg less and goes 30-40 m/s slower
And this shell has 680mm of pen at point blank range.
Except this shell only has a 6.4kg filler, while the SAP of the same caliber has 428mm of pen and a 23kg explosive filler (but weights way less at 475kg)

It depends on how gaijin wants to classify this “hybrid” shell

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Well at the rate they are getting new ships they will have it by next summer

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This but unironically. They added the turrets for a certain battleship last patch but aren’t in any rush to add said battleship. I’m gonna start tweakin if I have to wait until next year.

I think I would lose my mind if it’s an event vehicle

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