Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

War Thunder 2 won’t have nations. Instead, the trees will be based on vehicle families. The Magach one will be the first.

They’ve all been retired 😩

I think the last true Magachs are :

7-Alef, 7-Bet, Maybe or two interim 6’s (But these 6’s would probably be too copy paste even by snail magach meme standards)

Besides that, it’s just the three Mk’s of Sabra and Pereh.

They’d have to add something like a Turkish sub tree to pump more pattons in lol.

Pereh is good. Well, yeah, only spike NLOS and HJ-10 does the standoff ATGM role and both arent exported, but other trees can just get trucks with FPVs that features less ammo but more effective.

The Spike very much has been exported. Quite extensively, in fact.

the SPAAGuy needs them

When it comes to in game, I think the Pereh will perform terribly in the WT enviroment.

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It’s also an option that was trialed by the US, though I don’t think it’s going to see service, considering that the AGM-179 & JAGM-MR are proceeding. But is probably worth considering since MMW seekers are a not being considered, at least for now. (Even though multispectral MMW / IR obscurant smoke formulations exist.)

AH-64E & Spike NLOS

US F-15E’s arent standarized. You might find modern ones with old PW220 engines and AESA radar or PW229 engines and old radar, and it doesnt stop there. USAF simply modernizes whats available at the moment so current in game variant mix is accurate.

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I mean the NLOS specifically. I have like hundreds of game on SPIKE mounted vehicle while havent dont the namer branch ofc i know bruh.

If its on big sinai, big EE or mozdok and 38th parallel it can do work, being able to ignore complex terrain. The AFT10 probably will see more use on latter cases where ZTZ99s struggle with the terrain.

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I often see critics of adding Pereh cite the immense range of Spike NLOS making it too unbalanced to add.

As if our maps aren’t like… 3.6 x 3.6km at max (so when were you even going to use more than a fraction of that range anyway), and as if Spikes don’t have a weird obsession with aiming for the Roof MG and doing nothing lol.

Would be legit useless on Urban maps, but hilarious fun on open maps.

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Reason why I don’t think the Pereh will be good is because Gaijin likely won’t give it NLOS stuff anytime soon. So it’ll just be a big slow Magach that has inconsistent missiles as it’s only defense.

Gaijin has already seen the effect that NLOS and LOAL spike style missiles had on random battles. Let’s just say it’s one of the experiences that stuck with them.

F-16C PoBiT (upgraded F-16CJ Block 50/52 to F-16C/D Block 70/72 standard) it probably separate Vehicle at new rank after F-16C Block 50, and equipped AN/AAQ-28 Litening Large Aperture (LA) targeting pod

I wait AIM-9M 2 sub block for air force and naval aircraft rank 8 in the winter update 2024

  • AIM-9M-8 (USN & USMC)
  • AIM-9M-9 (USAF)

Eurofighter when?

I think if we ever get NLOS, they will just make it functionally identical to how ER / LR currently operate. No LOAL, no man in the loop etc.

Would play like a gun-less Namer lol.

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When the leaks says its not coming this year it probably meant for the december update which was delayed. I heavily doubt this however, its probably there are too much trouble on the current patch.
Notably it shouldve been out when the shooting range features the PLZ05, which quotes one of the newly added vehicle in the recent patch was the PLZ05.

You can pretend to be a magach. Thats why the pereh is based on a magach in the first place.

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Roll around the corner, people think you’re a regular Magach and expect you to be useless.

But hah! You fools! The gun is fake!

I’m actually even more useless! 😂

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Guys when do you guys think the patch be droppin I think this Tuesday. I am fine if they just delay the content to the next pach imo, there isnt much to grind.

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I really hope there is a simulator mode update sometime soon. The maps are way to small at this point :( I hope there is stuff in the works to make more dynamic sim maps AND larger maps.