Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

ah right there was something there you could be right

depends

yes the R27er still was the best bvr missle at the time
still overall i would say the f-16c outperformed the mig29 besides bvr

I might hope gaijin increase launch range & lock-range of PL-12 someday

  • Lock-range : 16 → 20 km
  • Launch range : 80 → 100 km

I don’t worried in the future Chengdu J-10A (Early) & Shenyang J-8F increase max BR

AIM-120C-3 & AIM-120C-4 AMRAAM lock-range, launch range and maximum overload like SD-10A, my guess.

AIM-120C-3, AIM-120C-4, AIM-120C-5, AIM-120C-6 and AIM-120C-7

too huge list.
compare 120C-3 to C-5, bruh

Iirc the Mig 29 had better first and 2nd turn due to not having a G limiter, it was after they removed the limiter the F16 would win everytime, prior they just didnt have the nose authority until they got to about 800-600kph. Then they were held back by the limiter. Without that they could pull just as hard as they wanted letting them have better nose authority.

we are not talking about base mig 29,
but later times when the mig29g was already a thing
when was the F-16 buffed?

I think the F16 got the G limiter removed before the Mig 29G was added. I think they didn’t do any big buffs to them but also never nerfed them. I cant think of them getting any flight specifc buffs or nerfs in recent time.

so like i said,
the F-16 C was better then the mig29g when the mig29g was released

Eh, close up definitely but for BVR no. R27ER was just better, if i stayed high alt most F16’s would avoid coming after me since id normally catch them well before they could. Though close quarters dog fight was essentially a death sentence since you dont have the performance the F16 gets.

Kinda the reason i stopped playing the F16 was just how boring the gameplay meta was for hugging the ground. I know a lot of people attribute the F14 for the ground meta but for me it was the dominance of the R27ER.

Idk with the multi path nerf id say they are more balanced but thats besides the point.

The new gen targeting pod coming to next major update ?

But I might want instead LANTIRN AN/AAQ-14 targeting pod

as i said

I think the trade off was more fair though, only problem was how easy multi path was to use to defeat the R27. Imo now they are both a better match, only thing is id rather see R73 get a buff or 9M get nerfed. 9M is definitely the best IR missile but if the R73 was less prone to spin out and seeking flares it may give the slight balance for those Mig 29 vs F16 dogfights.

Report about missing functionalities and symbology of radar scope on all JA37’s:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/w7jawSzit1iH

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JA37D/Di missing datalink:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9iVnvXxK603P

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Когда выйдет обновление?

Well,

We should steal it from the museum and add necessary systems and hang weapons

All current reports if anyone’s interested:

Hi, No date yet but people are guessing this week sometime.

Also please use english on this side of the forum. Otherwise you can use https://forum.warthunder.ru/

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