Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

I mean, it is ok, cause not really reliable to lob even AIM120 beyond 16km anyway, but anyhow, that does suck a bit.
And also, does any one know how many AMRAAMs JA37 will be able to carry and what is specs for the RWR?

well it depends bc its flight model is underperforming and ive got the evidence for it
its rwr should be better but it requires an ecm pod which isnt in game tho that hasnt stopped the Su-34
It should have some datalink
and its radar should be further reaching

Flight model I think they have talked about, what about radar and data link, any source?

Radar ive got a passed bug report on, fairely recent so dont be too hopeful
Datalink is hard to tell but most sources seem to say that a viggen can guide another viggens skyflash which isnt the same as in game but it is fairly advanced in DL for the time
The overall datalink goes a lot into the hunterlink but specifies that datalink and hunterlink are separate so there is more to it just i cant prove much more than that

Just to list couple things about JA37Di:

  • Flight performance is far from great.

  • RWR is analog without IFF.

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  • Radar can only detect as far as 50km and track at around 30km. It also lacks DL channels.

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this part is weird in game but also not factual as to the irl
I say weird in game bc my tws tracks over 50km but they dont show on the radar itself

i think it should have iff but i have not looked to far into app 73 yet
“The fighter version of the JA37 was originally judged to have no great need
radar warning for the hunting role. Through L37 provision, however, one such was ordered, primarily
for the aircraft’s attack role, a modified App 27; App 73, though with only 4
antennas and frequency range limited to current hunting radar frequencies.
However, the receiver was supplemented with a CW receiver based on chopped HF
signal. Incoming signal was analyzed and classified as LPD, HPD, MPD
or CW. Signal type was presented on the display and in the driver’s headphones with
synthetic sounds (CW gave rise to ambulance sounds).
During the life of the aircraft, however, the realization of the very good performance of
possible hostile flight with long-range fighter robot why requirements were made
improved MPD/HPD and also improved CW sensitivity. In addition, emerged
air staff requests for all-round equipment (4π detectors), which
led to a lot of study work but which was ultimately assessed financially
unrealistic, which is why the requirement was removed.
Project to produce an improved warning device, App73M, was initiated but
funds were not available for a serial order. In its place came the U95 warning receiver
sometimes to be used as a complement to the radar warning.”

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A-Darter is far more realistic, R-Darter and Aim-9s were never mounted on SA gripens A-Darters are the only A2A missiles I know of it carrying

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I’m talking purely about its current state in game, not irl

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/sNBSnksLpJ70
Any chance the reduced smoke propellant in the rolands missiles will be implemented any time soon. The adats and afew others have received it already and this report is about a year old.

what is this msg supposed to mean bro…

@oom1992 can I ask what translator do you use ?

Translators often struggle to translate thai language for some reason.

I guess the Swiss Hunter just doesn’t exist now

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  • Radar can only detect as far as 50km and track at around 30km. It also lacks DL channels.

thats not true, it can detect beyond that, green (or in this situation, blacker area) is showing on what distance the plane can be locked, not detected, its the same case as in mig 21 for example.

Looks like they didn’t have the visual model for V760 S-75M on hand for this video, since this visual model is for the naval M-1 Volna
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But the 3D model for S-75 has never appeared in the files or CDK anyway, despite it being the only one of the four new static SAM systems to have ( blank ) textures for the actual missile itself. Not really expecting to see them in fully gameready state until December at the earliest.

It 's possible they used the visual model for MIM-104 in the teaser, but it has yet to appear in the files so we can’t be sure yet that it’ll be the same exact one in that case.
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I’m ready when you are /j


Gib for Britain pls Gaijin

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I mean

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will look nice in japan sub trees, german sub tree and finland before Uk gets one themself

RAF use Alpha Jet?