Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Here in Germany we just call it Drittes Reich, but this is kinda going off-topic now

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The F-4E Peace Icarus is also a good contender for a rank 8 German premium.

Everyone else is coping so I get to join in on the fun

Put it as a French premium because the modern Greek Air Force operates the M2K and Rafale

Played a few games tonight and I hope Gaijin are aware of the mess they are about to make in the 12.0-13.0 BR bracket with BR changes and new premiums.
Adding 2 new aircraft to that BR bracket with Aim120…

F-4S, Tornado F.3 (Early) are already largely outclassed by the constant Su-27 and F-15 and AV8+ spam
Now you are going to guarantee that every 12.0 game will be an uptier. There will be no respite and these and many otther aircraft will suffer as a result

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I dont even really mind in the F3 Early dealing with them. Its gunna have one of hte best maybe even the best RWR in game and a very good radar. (but god damn it needs BOL fixed or Phimat)

What I feel sorry for are things like the Viggen D or Phantom FGR2. Those with older missiles like Skyflash DFs and only rear aspect IRs and older RWRs. Those are gunna be rendered essentially DOA. They already were just fighting an Su-27 spamming R-27ERs, the ICE is almost worse

The F.3 Early can deal with them but we don’t have the range, between the F-14 IRIAF spam and the Russian R-27 we are very defensive. By the time we get in a position half the team is dead. F-4S and FGR-2 are a joke at these BRs and Gaijin should refund every player that bought the F-4J(UK)

They are needlessly adding further imbalance when they need to increase the top aviation bracket to 14.0 +

This, is it really so hard to ask? I personally have British bug reports dating back at least 7 years that remain accepted but unresolved.

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I will never allow us to escape those allegations.

Can we look into the devs changing their stance about Australia not being a British sub-tree? There’s already a dozen Australian vehicles there. Seems incredibly strange that the actual Commonwealth Realm countries aren’t considered sub-trees but the Commonwealth of Nations ones (who are fully independent) are sub-trees.

Would just be nice to have all the Australian equipment in one place. So we don’t have to grind an entire second tree just to play 1 vehicle.

So there will be no M41 for the Benelux subtree in this update, too bad it would have been an easy and intelligent addition.

Easy, yes.

Intelligent, no.

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Is there a projected release date?

Next week we’ve been told our trusted dataminer.

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Especially since the voldbegs for the December update should be starting within three or so weeks.

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Really ? lol

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Oh crumbs yes, if it does release next week then we only got like 2 weeks max for it lol

Italy is banned from having squadron vehicles by Vyacheslav.

People will complain the F-16V(TW) and F-16I are C&P of F-16E/F bc they have the same addon fuel tank.

At least thats the cause of the single highest top tier win rate. Disclaimer: TSKS is heavily inaccurate.

Imo Italian F-16ADF should receive its AIM-9L/I (L/I-1), AIM-120B and maybe AIM-120C-5 and go to appropriate br, while Romanian variant which is still in service, can come later with AIM-9X and AIM-120C-8, plus the ability to use ground ordnance.

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