Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

It is a possibility.

Don’t say that as then they scream about the Swiss F/A-18

Both the T129 and the F-104S TAF are made by Italy

This is not hard to understand.

F104 TAF - Operated by Turkey
T129 - Developed with the aid of a Turkish company, operated by Turkey.

They are, as should be incredibly obvious, associated with Turkey. Does this mean Italy was not involved in the development, no. Does this mean that there is consistency in wear Turkish stuff ended up? Yes. Does that mean it is a sub tree? No. Does this mean there’s a pattern of introduction they’d have to contradict to add Turkey to a different tree? Yes. Again, this does not mean it is a sub tree, and I never claimed it did. I made the claim, which holds up in the face of this information, that they’ve demonstrated a consistency regarding Turkish additions.

We’ve also demonstrated that who made the kit doesn’t influence it particularly on wear it ends up, otherwise the 2000 5Ei coming in would more plausibly have ended up in the French tree. I am sure there are other examples.

@Smin1080p_WT

Are there any plans to equip the israeli Saraph with Spike missiles in the near future?

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Because the VRCC is made by Italy. Its like saying Oman is a subtree of Italy, because they use the Centauro RGO

No, I will campaign against Irelands addition to this game if its in the british tree.

They’re already in there

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My brother in christ all of those are unironically completely unflairable, DIRCM proof, has a 40+ km range and can pull 80+ Gs during their entire flight path…
Not just for ground attackers, they should never be added to ARB. Period.

Dude, the F-104S TAF and the T129 are in Italian tree because they made them. It is that simple
While the F-4E Terminator has nothing to do with Italy

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And I still actively try to get it changed to a Philippine Peacock Class.

Ye

This should be a priority for Gaijin… I mean, an update focused solely on redesigning the tech trees and nations—even with a reworked matchmaking system—would be the best update in War Thunder’s history. Even if it didn’t add a single new vehicle, it would still be the best by far.

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lol

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Beautiful, nice work

Firstly, I’ve never said Spain is an italian tech tree.
Secondly, the spanish av8b would fit well in the italian tech tree because of similarity in vehicles used (av8b, centauro, EFA), strong relationship between the 2 countries and because USA already has a premium av8b.

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@Swokе Doesn’t seem to understand the fact that a nation doesnt have to be a subtree to be added to a particular tree istead of another

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Can i ask one serious question about developers plan about one game mechanic?

Currently APS shows sign, what something dangerous flight near to you.

But in real life, APS see dangerous object much farther than current in game.

And few modern Soft APS also see dangerous object.
Like German complex MUSS.
In game it is just LWS but in real life it can see and warn the crew about dangerous.

I think it will be very cool addition to the game. Especially if this mechanic would work, Britain can receive Challenger 2 Medusa wich has MUSS and can see and warn the crew about missiles.

By means of UV (ultraviolet) radiation sensors, MILTAS are able to detect the “torch” of a missile and warn of a missile attack in the same way as aviation systems do.

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Not 1flare for small ones, maybe big ones, but in interception it is almost undodgable.