Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Tbh, i think everyone except Russia could really do with a new ‘Top AA’. They’ve all fallen behind the capability precedent Pantsir has set to varying extents.

Israel’s AA situation is just particularly awful. 0 counterplay against helicopters or drones. 0 counterplay against AGM’s / GBU’s. Its rough lol.

Nope, there are Soviet/Russian based mig21 upgrade to have ARH, such as the 21-93, aka BISON in war thunder or UPG.

Yeah i agree with that, altho gaijin thinks the Ito is on par with the Panzir while none other AA are i have no clue, but yeah israel is realy behind there and proberbly should get something there soon

Or gaijin delay early 5th gen infrared Air-to-Air Missile until the winter major update ?

Whoever does these leaklists keeps putting either Spyder or HVSD/ADAMS in them. My copium / hopium goes through the roof, dev server comes around and discover it was fake. We get another magach instead. Rinse and repeat lmao.

One of these years we will finally get something and i’ll be the happiest man on earth.

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I doubt we’ll get them. They’d need to unfuck BOL and such.

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Spain is not a subtree of Italy

yeah, if wikipedia is corect eaven if they say no to the Python 5 it uses Derby’s as well and we do have that, so i dont think there is a reason to not add it by now

na that was the greek one

only the Germans and the greeks got the ICE upgrade package for their phantoms, everyone else had sth different and most other upgrades were to make the phantom into a Bomber like Kurnass 2000 and Terminator

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Thanks.
I think if we are looking for potential Rank 8 premiums we’d probably have to look at ARH carriers so not the Turkish F-4 then.

More likely for the Turks to end up with the Italians if their heli’s anything to go by.

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Ah how France is a Dutch subtree. I see.

Still upset about that but not like we can do anything.

Like the issue we are facing right now is that when a nation doesnt have top tier vehicles, gaijin just thinks… Well they dont have that many top tier vehicles, so that’s why you only get 1 vehicle per update.

But like… they have so many lower tier vehicles, then why if a nation doesnt have top tier, they shouldnt get more then 1 or 2 vehicles…

Like… give them some lower tier ones then.

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but a greek one, that could realistically go to the US or the German tree because the entire upgrade was done in Germany by the same companies that did the ICE upgrade

although unlikely rn because Germany is gonna get a different Premium this major

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Still upset about that one…
This means we wont be seeing unique frames in the TT.

Also it means we wont get their navy. So no subs, coastal and bluewater…
BeNeLux attack drones are also out of the question with it being a sub-TT. Same goes for helicopters…

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I wonder what Israel’s VIII premium could be, since there really isn’t much options.

Mig-21 2000 ? (Carries Python 3-4).

Lavi? (Python 3 + 9M’s)

Sound like not bad

But I might not think spain + portuguese it’s next sub tree for italy after hungary & romanian

Turkish not sub tree for italy

Italy unlike great britain and can’t 4 sub tree

You mean Russia will be the next sub-TT for Italy?
Almost every single sub-TT has been Russian, except for BeNeLux and South-Africa.

Like… Hungary isn’t even Hungarian, the same goes for Finland.
If they call that a sub-TT because it has Finnish/Hungarian skins, then i can say firmly that Great Britain has a Zimbabwe sub-TT because i have Zimbabwe skins for their meteors and hunters.

The whole part of the subtree train is just “here you want stuff you got it” rather than caring, I mean look at the whole Singapore thing. We were so set on it that it was going to Japan for months, then suddenly boom here you go China. Thank god we have the leak community otherwise we would of gotten it.

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