In the future F-16I Sufa and F-15D Baz carried AGM-142 Popeye (AGM-142F) and SPICE series like F-15I Ra’am
Not forgot F-4E Kurnass 2000 armed AGM-142
F-15E lack 2 datalink pods
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Hughes AN/AXQ-14
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AN/ZSW-1 Improved Data Link Pod (IDLP)
2nd missile is Have Life, afaik mini popeye
Anyway, for game it is same. Yes, lighter, but Popeye is Popeye.
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Its schilka made by the iai sold to india uses elta radar 3d model could be added to israel and uk
https://www.iai.co.il/p/schilka
bro i’m done with this thread, somebody just drop the update themselves…
And yes in theory it could have missiles but it need to adapt to ilga missiles so no most chances it wont get the missiles
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Anyone else struggling destroying the MLRS AI targets in Air RB?
They have the same range. IR PGMs would be able to get a TRACK lock from far, that’s about it.
This is not a thing, you are free to prove me wrong.
There is no reason to them over something like Brimstone, they do have more range while being slower and easy to shot down. For which reason you want them? Even if they have 20km of range this hardly matters when they leave a huge trail and they can be easily shot down by any SPAA.
Since for you one is nothing remarkable but the other is amazing? What does EGBU-24 have over Paveway IV?
AGM-65G’s have roughly 12km of range from platforms such as F-16C’s & Co, from an Harrier they do have less range because logically the plane is slower. Regardless of this 12km are not “safe distances”. Have you used the Harrier GR.7 at all?
Especially because the Tornado is not the most agile airframe HMS give it some help.
Tornado GR.4 can get them as well.
The issue is that if you want to fight against SPAA you don’t do that. If you want to fight against SPAA you are better off surprising them rather than trying to guide a missile or bomb from 15-20km which they can easily shot down; Brimstone are great at this. You can easily spot any SPAA while you spawn, go low to the ground and pop-out of cover when you are at 5-6km from them and fire; Brimstone are perfect for this type of engagements because they are agile enough. They are also great against helicopters. PGMs can do that? Not really, they are not agile enough. LGB can do that? Yes, but it is way harder than doing it with Brimstones and you still can’t engage helicopters.
BRs are subject to change. Mirage 2000D-RMV was 13.7 in Air RB while having six MICA-EM. Do you really except the Mirage 2000D-RMV to be 13.7 in Air RB with two magic 2?
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And man when yall are saying u have problem with cas israel tt lacks something and that something is something to do against cas like we cant even deal with cas at 10.0 maybe with the machbet but not with the drakon and yet what we can do against aerial threats in top tier like we cant even deal with helis at top tier since they are out ranging our current missiles which is 6km and thier flying range is 5.5 i think then what are we supposed to do just see how the missile flying towards me and do nothing?
Hopefully not… But Gaijin has made some rather questionable BR decisions in the past, so you’re not inspiring much confidence here. Sometimes common sense just isn’t applied for whatever reason.
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dev server?
what I said int wrong lol, im happy we are getting a lot just a shame most of it is kinda trash lol
okay thats just wrong lmao, ive killed spaa from 16km out in the harrier, and ive seen people get 20km shots from things like the F16C
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No on live, i dropped several bombs and launched some rockets to no avail. Then just end game i saw a F-104 kill one with its guns. So probably just a local skill issue
You can get 20km launches from altitude and with speed, not from normal conditions. Again not the case for the GR.7. About your 16km launches with the Harrier GR.7 you are free to prove me wrong. Even if this was possible with an Harrier GR.7 you probably have to do it from altitude and at that distance the speed of the Maverick is extremely slow so they can be easily shot down.
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based off your responses it’s clear you literally did not read anything I said.
Yeah that’s REALLY important
They’re fire and forget with a far safer range, that alone is more than enough reason to use them. Your choice is a FnF weapon that you can immediately go on the defensive after using, vs a an also incredibly slow A2G missile you need to manually guide to the target and linger in the air space if used at a distance. As for the close range shotgun idea that is a HEAVILY map dependent strategy and is just an overall bad idea when the Pantsir’s 30mm guns can turn you to dust.
have you used HMS outside of a good platform? Even on some of the best platforms in the game like the Gripen and F-16s, HMS 9Ms are limited severely by the missile itself and thus the aircraft needs to help get a better angle of attack for the missile before launch. You blatantly stated the opposite, that the Tornado’s bad FM would benefit from HMS when the reality is that because its a bad platform the HMS doesn’t help it in most circumstances… If it had a higher G pull missile this wouldn’t be the case
I was talking about the Tornado GR4 when I said the CM pods are the more important thing that it gets over the GR1. Since the standard CM pods on the GR1 kinda suck
250kg bombs are inconsistent, also in testing the EGBU-24 just glides further, meaning once again safer to use.
The JH-7 sits at 12.3 despite being worse than just about every 12.0 in the game in air to air combat so no I literally would not put it past them what so ever.
sad day looking at that Germany column :/
Man i mean this magach is good(sabra) but the problem is that the israeli tt cannot defend either from any aerial threat i mean prob only drones nothing more planes have more range in 10.0 and yet yall expect us to do something at at top tier nah man thats why israel needs top tier spaa and most countries now has a good spaa(except japan ,and israel) for israel the hvsd/adams as yk for japan there was also something but i forgot its name
250kg are plenty to kill any SPAA.
Debetable, you still have all the downsides PGMs have (being incredibly slow and not agile for close-range shots)
To me it looks like you have zero experience doing CAS at top tier and your whole argument is “muh engaging outside of SPAA therefore they are better” or “kh38 stronk”
Yes, I have every top tier fighter in the game and HMS helps.
JH-7A also have x4 good missiles and really good flight performance, while it is not the best in class it’s not worse than every 12.0 like you claim.
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