Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

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5383

It’s just my personal opinion only

If gajin add AIM-120C-3, AIM-120C-5 & AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM

Might be F/A-18A+ or F/A-18C+ for USA tech tree

Su-30M2, my guess.

EF-2000 T1 Blk 2 or Blk 5 for germany & italy

But gajin could add swiss F/A-18C U21 or U25 before EF-2000 Trance 1 ?

F-16A ADF 12.7 → 14.0

  • AIM-7M replace with AIM-120B & AIM-120C-5

JAS39C EBS HU 13.7 → 14.0

  • AIM-120C-5 & AIM-120C-7 replace AIM-120A

Typhoon DA2 or F.2

Gripen C (SAAF) increase max BR to 14.0, IRIS-T instead AIM-9L & AIM-9M Sidewinder but removed R-Darter

Another fighter aircraft 13.3 ~ 13.7 from IAF or SAAF before Gripen C

Rafale M F1, maybe

Mirage 2000-5F change BR to 14.0 and add MICA IR but removed Super 530F & 530D

Belgium F-16AM MLU to 14.3 if add AIM-9X

JAS39E (Early) because equipment like JAS39C Gripen but different radar. My guess.

JAS39C Gripen C change battle rating to 14.3 and RB 98 (IRIS-T) instead RB 74 (M)

F/A-18C MLU 1 or MLU 2 (FI)

J-11B at 14.0 and located after J-11A, but J-10B would be 14.3 BR

Add PL-8B on J-10A (Early) and change BR to 14.0

BR 14.0 ? Ah yes

AIM-9M (stock) and move to tier I modification instead AIM-9L, add Python 4 and AIM-120B replace with AIM-120C-5

F-2A (Early) (J/APG-1 AESA radar) or F-2A Late (J/APG-2 AESA radar), I’m not sure

F-15J (M) battle rating to 14.3 and AAM-5 instead AIM-9M

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5384

That’s where you’re wrong; you’re comparing the games and not the models.

Yeah, you’re paying $80 for an F-4E, or F-16C, or an F/A-18C, but you get a well-detailed, highly immersive, and authentic model of a vehicle that you like and that you’d like to fly out in a simulator.

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5385

You mean the radar set, which was already addressed.
The flight model will be on-par.
And DCS forces you to use controls that aren’t mouse and keyboard.
You can see how much I own on DCS, and War Thunder’s already adding a more immersive F-15E than DCS, War Thunder’s will have better engines too.

5386

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5387

Another astronomically hot take by old goofy Razervon has been posted again i take it?

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5388

M8 war thunder it’s like World of warplanes for DCS users

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5389

Tbf F-15E module is unfinished and probably never will

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5390

Yeah… and its annoying to as i like that particular module :(

5391

I am a DCS user, and no War Thunder isn’t.
The primary difference between War Thunder and DCS is radar controls and radar simulation.
Less to do in DCS servers due to missions being community made is a flaw of mission makers and not the game itself.

I’ve played DCS for over 1000 hours.
When F-16s released for War Thunder, the first thing I did was test the flight models.
War Thunder for aircraft that don’t have wing sweep does an excellent job with their flight models.
DCS does a slightly better job with variable wing sweep aircraft.

And controls for War Thunder are far more customizable due to the mouse aim and virtual joystick systems.

People forget that DCS is still a game. DCS even has auto-start and auto-shutdown with one key press.

5392

Such a round number where that meme going up a list to a certain sentence : P

Bro plays 1,000 hours in DCS and 500 hours on war thunder xD

5393

Hi, I’ve been playing DCS for the same amount of years as War Thunder, yes for most of us its literally World of Warplanes and the only thing that makes me play WT instead of DCS right now is bc I have no free time and its more casual and dumbed down

5394

Last check from what appears to be the final devserver version: there have been no immediately visible changes to any of the new air mode targets aside from those that were added in the first devserver versions.

I am going to archive this appearance of the S-300PS launch vehicle though, since it 's now the last static SAM launcher to not have animation bones added:

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Unrelated to the above, here 's the new Enhanced Paveway bombs added today, which are currently not used ingame:

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5395

Thats certainly not the r&r thread player count lmao

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5396

Have any of these laser/GPS bombs come to US aircraft? From what I’ve heard it’s only on tornadoes and stuff in game

5397

Type 62 might be one of the best tanks it the game. Unfortunately it doesnt uptier very well.

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5398

Seeing how much of this update was changed on community feedback like F-15E engines and the tech tree Viggen I don’t think that’ll happen.

Especially remembering that a Singaporean Leopard for China was leaked, then struck from the leak. That is quite possibly Gaijin reacting behind the scenes and changing course again.

So I am hopeful they won’t make this mistake after all.

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5399

They tend not to respect player feedback in terms of tech trees and vehicle placement.

5400

What about the tech tree Viggen Di and the Indian SPAA those were unplanned for this update.

5401

I meant in terms of once theyve decided where something goes, it takes heaven and earth to get them to change their minds. (i.e. Australian abrams, soviet praga)

5402

I wouldn’t be so pessimistic. Like I said they listened to feedback a lot this update, and it seems like they even did that on the leaked Leopard.

Besides, there’s one thing they have been very active about avoiding, which is present day politics. Adding ASEAN under China is a bit too on the nose for Gaijin.